Andy Burnham - 78mph in a 40 limit, 6 points + £2k fine
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
Presumably didn't notice the variable limit, didn't notice the camera flashes (assuming it was HADECS?), and was driving well above the normal speed limit anyway, probably ~85mph on many speedometers.
Seems he got off fairly lightly, that would probably be a ban at another court for the same offence!
Presumably didn't notice the variable limit, didn't notice the camera flashes (assuming it was HADECS?), and was driving well above the normal speed limit anyway, probably ~85mph on many speedometers.
Seems he got off fairly lightly, that would probably be a ban at another court for the same offence!
tbh it's easily done on variable speed limit motorways.
I've lost count of the number of times the limit has dropped to a ridiculously low speed only for there to be nothing on the road. One example, a gantry showing 20mph with no prior warning and then nothing after it either (CW on the M25 at J15).
It's a risk you take if you don't change your speed. Pretending you didn't know, I assume, would have been purely an attempt reduce his punishment. Not sure what other defense you would use.
Expense mistake for him.
I've lost count of the number of times the limit has dropped to a ridiculously low speed only for there to be nothing on the road. One example, a gantry showing 20mph with no prior warning and then nothing after it either (CW on the M25 at J15).
It's a risk you take if you don't change your speed. Pretending you didn't know, I assume, would have been purely an attempt reduce his punishment. Not sure what other defense you would use.
Expense mistake for him.
e-honda said:
"The particulars of the charge say he was at the wheel of a five-door Vauxhall Insignia "
Surely the major of Manchester can do better than that, or is it some sort of I grew up working class image thing?
Suppose he could’ve been in something a little more ‘becoming’ of his role, but then you’d be calling him a champagne socialist…Surely the major of Manchester can do better than that, or is it some sort of I grew up working class image thing?
Too busy to obey their own rules 
Motor1 said:
MPs have the highest rate of speeding convictions of any profession
A surprising statistic about those that are supposed to set an example.
https://uk.motor1.com/news/344424/mps-highest-spee...
A surprising statistic about those that are supposed to set an example.
https://uk.motor1.com/news/344424/mps-highest-spee...
Gareth79 said:
… and was driving well above the normal speed limit anyway, probably ~85mph on many speedometers.
I do like that he said he didn’t know it was 40 when he was over 70 anyway - although I think your 85 comment is inaccurate these days.Bearing in mind 78 is spot on as fast as you drive in a 70 without triggering action, I wonder if him being at that speed was a coincidence, or deliberate?
Tribal Chestnut said:
e-honda said:
"The particulars of the charge say he was at the wheel of a five-door Vauxhall Insignia "
Surely the major of Manchester can do better than that, or is it some sort of I grew up working class image thing?
Suppose he could’ve been in something a little more ‘becoming’ of his role, but then you’d be calling him a champagne socialist…Surely the major of Manchester can do better than that, or is it some sort of I grew up working class image thing?
Isn't that what Volvo's are for?
bigothunter said:
Too busy to obey their own rules
See, even MPs aren’t all bad.Motor1 said:
MPs have the highest rate of speeding convictions of any profession
A surprising statistic about those that are supposed to set an example.
https://uk.motor1.com/news/344424/mps-highest-spee...
A surprising statistic about those that are supposed to set an example.
https://uk.motor1.com/news/344424/mps-highest-spee...
agtlaw said:
“This was made up of a fine of £1,353, a victim surcharge of £541 and costs of £90.“
The fine appears to be based on a declared net income of £2030 per week. That’s a gross annual income of approximately £185,000.
The surcharge is fixed at 40% of the fine.
I'm surprised the fine wasn't nearer to the 2k max for, barring a sniff, double the limit. Any thoughts?The fine appears to be based on a declared net income of £2030 per week. That’s a gross annual income of approximately £185,000.
The surcharge is fixed at 40% of the fine.
agtlaw said:
martinbiz said:
I'm surprised the fine wasn't nearer to the 2k max for, barring a sniff, double the limit. Any thoughts?
A Band D fine would have been justified. If so then 75% of the £2500 maximum is £1875. £750 surcharge. £90 costs. £2715 total. And of course the max is now £2.5k
agtlaw said:
The fine appears to be based on a declared net income of £2030 per week. That’s a gross annual income of approximately £185,000.
Is his income stated somewhere, or did you back calculate it?Appreciate he may well have multiple sources of income but his salary as Mayor is nowhere near that.
agtlaw said:
martinbiz said:
Yes, I think he got away reasonably lightly
And of course the max is now £2.5k
The maximum fine for a motorway speeding offence (level 4 on the standard scale) has been £2.5k since 1992. And of course the max is now £2.5k
Edit, when you get to my age 1992 wasn't long ago
Edited by martinbiz on Sunday 26th March 11:42
Sheepshanks said:
Gareth79 said:
… and was driving well above the normal speed limit anyway, probably ~85mph on many speedometers.
I do like that he said he didn’t know it was 40 when he was over 70 anyway - although I think your 85 comment is inaccurate these days.Bearing in mind 78 is spot on as fast as you drive in a 70 without triggering action, I wonder if him being at that speed was a coincidence, or deliberate?
But surely you would quickly question why you were going twice as fast as everyone else and realise a limit must be in force.
over_the_hill said:
Pretty well this. Cruise control set at 77/78 mph ?
But surely you would quickly question why you were going twice as fast as everyone else and realise a limit must be in force.
Probably on his phone. But surely you would quickly question why you were going twice as fast as everyone else and realise a limit must be in force.
I haven’t seen the time of the offence mentioned but it may have been late at night if the slip road had been closed for roadworks, so perhaps not much traffic.
Sheepshanks said:
over_the_hill said:
Pretty well this. Cruise control set at 77/78 mph ?
But surely you would quickly question why you were going twice as fast as everyone else and realise a limit must be in force.
Probably on his phone. But surely you would quickly question why you were going twice as fast as everyone else and realise a limit must be in force.
I haven’t seen the time of the offence mentioned but it may have been late at night if the slip road had been closed for roadworks, so perhaps not much traffic.
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