Hyperjar Compliance Email
Hyperjar Compliance Email
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river_rat

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730 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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I've had the following email from 'Compliance Team' at Hyperjar:

"We are writing to you about your HyperJar account. As we operate in a regulated industry, we occasionally need to carry out random verification checks on customers’ accounts.

Your account has been flagged in our system as one to review. For us to go ahead with our checks, we are kindly asking you to submit the following:


Proof of the source of funds (such as a pay slip, a bank receipt, or statement) for the following payments:
-Payment of £15 received on 31/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 11/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 20/02/2023
The purpose of the above payments
A picture of you holding proof of ID (such as your passport or driving licence)
A clear and full picture of your identification document Please send these documents in reply to this email.


While we wait for this information, your account will be temporarily suspended, which means that you cannot transfer any money out or use your card. from Hyperjar:"

My first thought was SCAM, but I've contacted Hyperjar via the App and apparently it is legit.

Some of the requests are IMO a bit odd - why do they need a photo of me holding ID for example? The transfers in were made from my bank, so it should be easy for them to check this without me providing statements?

The 'purpose of the above payments' - why do they need to know that, its only £45 so not likely to be large scale money laundering and even if it was I can make up any reason for the payments, so what does this question actually achieve?

The fact they have immediatley suspended the account has also irked me - what if I was on holiday and needed the card!

Am I over reacting here, or does anyone else find this request a bit OTT?

Koyaanisqatsi

2,525 posts

54 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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It's a pain in the arse (as it is for our clients too), but a photo holding the ID or a 5 second video of them does greatly eliminate fraud and impersonation and keeps firms ultra compliant.

river_rat

Original Poster:

730 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Makes sense - thanks for the replies.

Mr Whippy

32,351 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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I never get why they flag this stuff when it’s in the bank system.

Ie, KYC/AML applies to originators of funds. Just ask them where it came from.

Isn’t that the whole point of it all, so trust pervades?

AC43

13,402 posts

232 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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river_rat said:
-Payment of £15 received on 31/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 11/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 20/02/2023
Common pattern of money laundering; lots of repeat small transactions going from A to B.

pork911

7,365 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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AC43 said:
river_rat said:
-Payment of £15 received on 31/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 11/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 20/02/2023
Common pattern of money laundering; lots of repeat small transactions going from A to B.
lots?

AC43

13,402 posts

232 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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pork911 said:
AC43 said:
river_rat said:
-Payment of £15 received on 31/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 11/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 20/02/2023
Common pattern of money laundering; lots of repeat small transactions going from A to B.
lots?
The real money launderers use lots.

The system is just detecting a pattern.



Colonel Cupcake

1,344 posts

69 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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You will have to jump through the ridiculous hoops but when you have done so, close the account and move to a sensible bank.

pork911

7,365 posts

207 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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AC43 said:
pork911 said:
AC43 said:
river_rat said:
-Payment of £15 received on 31/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 11/03/2023
-Payment of £15 received on 20/02/2023
Common pattern of money laundering; lots of repeat small transactions going from A to B.
lots?
The real money launderers use lots.

The system is just detecting a pattern.
3 small transactions over 5 weeks

compliance team must be mad busy

FredAstaire

2,421 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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AC43 said:
Common pattern of money laundering; lots of repeat small transactions going from A to B.
pocket money amounts, at pocket money frequencies, for a card marketed as being for kids pocket money....

FredAstaire

2,421 posts

236 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Should add - we signed up for hyperjar recently so we can give our kids pocket money.

During sign up we had to take photos of our id and a short video of ourselves from different angles.

Maybe this is them vetting older accounts retrospectively the same way new accounts are.

55palfers

6,292 posts

188 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Just send the pictures with The Kremlin as a backdrop. You'll be fine.

Simpo Two

91,619 posts

289 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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FredAstaire said:
Should add - we signed up for hyperjar recently so we can give our kids pocket money.

During sign up we had to take photos of our id and a short video of ourselves from different angles.
You could just give your kids actual pocket money. Used to work well. Probably too simple though nuts

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

107 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Sounds like go after the little fish and make the stats of investigation look good like 95%. The other 5% of real criminality you can say you never got round to checking as you were snowed under working through the list like the honest dilligent financial institution you are lol.