RE: Ford unveils new E-Transit Courier
RE: Ford unveils new E-Transit Courier
Thursday 6th April 2023

Ford unveils new E-Transit Courier

The Transit already has an EV option - time for baby brother to follow suit


Though there remain some hurdles to overcome (cost highest among those concerns), there’s a lot to recommend an all-electric van. Ditching diesel for instant torque makes city driving quieter, quicker and less stressful, predominantly urban use mitigates some range concerns, and being based on something so large and heavy means there's space to package batteries and motors. It should be little wonder that there’s everything from eSprinter to a Vivaro-e out there.

Small EV vans abound, too, so now Ford has the E-Transit Courier to vie for buyers’ attention with Vauxhall-Toyota-Peugeot-Citroen quadrumvirate of compact electric loud haulers (the Combo-e, Proace City Electric, e-Partner and e-Berlingo - told you there were a lot). An all-new, group-up design (where many vans adapt ICE architecture), Ford is promising ‘no-compromise EV performance, a significantly larger and more flexible load area, and full backing from Ford Pro’s connected services deliver unmatched productivity’.

Ford hasn’t said yet how big the battery is in an E-Transit Courier, but it will be able to charge at up to 100kW. A best-case scenario is 10 minutes for 54 miles, and 10-80 per cent in less than 30 minutes. Buyers are going to get a year’s free access to the BlueOval Charge Network, which will apparently have 500,000 public chargers by 2024.  There’s a targeted 5.7 hours full juice for an 11kW charger at home, with Ford Pro Charging able to schedule the charge for when cheaper electric is on offer.

Of just as much use to van drivers will be the carrying capacities of the E-Transit Courier. Thanks to a larger gap between the rear arches, two Euro pallets can fit in the back for the first time, a 2.9 cubic metre space representing a 26 per cent increase on the previous van. There’s even a load-through bulkhead feature, so anything up to 2.6m can be carried. Ford says planks or pipes, for example, or maybe banner flags for a Sunday Service. Quite some achievement in a van this small. Payload is 700kg, and max towing weight is 750kg, though there’s no word yet on what carrying hundreds of kilos will do for range. That probably should be a commercial vehicle test on the WLTP figures. Ford says an officially homologated driving range ‘will be published closer to on-sale date’. For reference, a Combo-e has a 171-mile WLTP rating.

Inside the Courier, buyers will get a pair of 12-inch screens, Ford Sync4 infotainment, and a ‘squircle’ steering wheel to benefit leg room. An Office Pack brings a flat work surface for using a laptop, filing paperwork, or whatever people with proper jobs that aren’t flouncing about in new cars need it for. Ford is promising ‘a very comprehensive standard equipment specification’ for the new van. Security is taken care of with packs including secondary hook locks to prevent against peel and steal pinching, plus an auto-locking slide door.

Those who want to see the electric Courier up close can have a look at the Commercial Vehicle show at the NEC in a couple of weeks. It’s due to go into production late next year, with petrol and diesel versions of the new van launching this summer. But it might be hard to go back to the old ways after driving an electric van, assuming you don’t have to go too far…


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AndyWoodall

Original Poster:

2,726 posts

289 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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We've just got a E-Partner van at work, its a decent little thing, electric is perfect for our needs.

This does look a lot better in every way though, although I'd wait until they say what the battery capacity is first. Looks good, we'd have picked this over the Pug if the price was similar!

one eyed cat

62 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Looks like a great van (coming from a leaf owner, who has no need for a van!), loud hauler made me chuckle, shouldn’t it be silent!

Twinair

1,038 posts

172 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Expect a whole new lexicon to be created for ‘e’ van delivery delays…

And instead of drivers asking to quickly use your loo, they will ask to quickly use your leccy… :-))

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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That looks pretty decent all things considered! However stating a targeted 5.7 hours for fully charging at home on a 11kW charger is pointless as unless you have 3 phase which 99.99% of homes dont. Probably nearer 10 hours on 7kw wall box.

Motormatt

508 posts

248 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Darnoc95 said:
That looks pretty decent all things considered! However stating a targeted 5.7 hours for fully charging at home on a 11kW charger is pointless as unless you have 3 phase which 99.99% of homes dont. Probably nearer 10 hours on 7kw wall box.
I thought the same thing, hardly anyone can have an 11kW charger at home. Many of these will be run from bushiness premises on 3 phase that could have 11kw (or higher) though.

smilo996

3,859 posts

200 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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great looking van and some sensible features.
What are those two intrusions into the load bay though?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Motormatt said:
Darnoc95 said:
That looks pretty decent all things considered! However stating a targeted 5.7 hours for fully charging at home on a 11kW charger is pointless as unless you have 3 phase which 99.99% of homes dont. Probably nearer 10 hours on 7kw wall box.
I thought the same thing, hardly anyone can have an 11kW charger at home. Many of these will be run from bushiness premises on 3 phase that could have 11kw (or higher) though.
Exactly, the 11kW thing is for business premises which may have 3-phase already, or be able to get it easily.

10 hours at home for a full charge would also be just fine.

FBR2020

1,303 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Article said:
Ford hasn’t said yet how big the battery is in an E-Transit Courier...
Surely all it takes is some simple arithmetic?

5.7hours @ 11kW = 62.7kWh

10-80% on 100kW in less than 30 mins.
70% of 62.7 = 43.9kWh
43.9/100 = 0.44 hours = 26 mins

In other words, the battery is about 62kWh and will charge 10-80% in 26 minutes.

Add to that: "10mins for 54 miles", so 26 mins means 140 miles is 70% of the battery and a total 200 mile range.



Gecko1978

12,302 posts

187 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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FBR2020 said:
Surely all it takes is some simple arithmetic?

5.7hours @ 11kW = 62.7kWh

10-80% on 100kW in less than 30 mins.
70% of 62.7 = 43.9kWh
43.9/100 = 0.44 hours = 26 mins

In other words, the battery is about 62kWh and will charge 10-80% in 26 minutes.

Add to that: "10mins for 54 miles", so 26 mins means 140 miles is 70% of the battery and a total 200 mile range.
Would it get 200 miles fully laden etc, does running the radio or Aircon impact that etc. I wonder because I assume alot of small vans are just run ragged are these as durable

FBR2020

1,303 posts

240 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Gecko1978 said:
Would it get 200 miles fully laden etc, does running the radio or Aircon impact that etc. I wonder because I assume alot of small vans are just run ragged are these as durable
Almost certainly not, just like any other BEV, PHEV or ICE won't get their quoted range outside of WLTP lab. It's really just a comparison tool.

200 mile theoretical from 62.7kWh is around 3.2 miles/kWh, which is the same as our Leaf manages in winter. So I'd suggest fully loaded, in winter, the van will be sub-150.

48k

17,515 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Gecko1978 said:
Would it get 200 miles fully laden etc, does running the radio or Aircon impact that etc. I wonder because I assume alot of small vans are just run ragged are these as durable
Radio is negligable, what hammers the battery and range is hot air blowers.

Nish Gnackers

1,173 posts

71 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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48k said:
Radio is negligable, what hammers the battery and range is hot air blowers.
"Oi Kevin switch that firkin radio off or we'll never make it to the end of the delivery round ... we've got 19 more packages to deliver"

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

186 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Gecko1978 said:
FBR2020 said:
Surely all it takes is some simple arithmetic?

5.7hours @ 11kW = 62.7kWh

10-80% on 100kW in less than 30 mins.
70% of 62.7 = 43.9kWh
43.9/100 = 0.44 hours = 26 mins

In other words, the battery is about 62kWh and will charge 10-80% in 26 minutes.

Add to that: "10mins for 54 miles", so 26 mins means 140 miles is 70% of the battery and a total 200 mile range.
Would it get 200 miles fully laden etc, does running the radio or Aircon impact that etc. I wonder because I assume alot of small vans are just run ragged are these as durable
Come on. Your radio is maybe 150W max. Do some maths...

andy43

13,247 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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It’s heating and cooling that knacker the battery.
No mention of range and only a 100kw charge speed.. not that impressive. If your business involves carrying goods any heavier than a florists I’m guessing this isn’t the van you’re looking for.

AKBaz

4 posts

124 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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All these leccy vans have their uses but will never beat a diesel.

I can drive fully laden with 900kg 250 miles to Cornwall and back so 500 miles on a full tank in 11 hours. In an equivalent sized leccy van it would take me 2 full days.
The government seems to think that in 7 years time they can ban diesel vans upto 3500kg they are so misinformed. How many White Mercedes Sprinters do you see pounding up and down our motorways. If the government ban new ones nothing will get delivered unless you want to wait twice as long and pay much more for deliveries.

Baz

BenS94

3,245 posts

54 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Looking forward to the ICE versions. Had one from new for 6 years, only done 8,000 miles, it's been faultless until recently, where lack of use has caught up with it - 5 Michelin CrossClimate 2 tyres (one rear punctured whilst on the road and driven for a while before realising, so destroyed!) and now a spring has snapped, but I blame it sitting and water gathering at a certain point. Might replace it with a petrol powered new version, as long as they also offer a tailgate option.

Chosen because it felt like the most pleasant and car like of all the small vans tested to drive.


04helipilot

414 posts

181 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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But it's not white !!!

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

97 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Motormatt said:
I thought the same thing, hardly anyone can have an 11kW charger at home. Many of these will be run from bushiness premises on 3 phase that could have 11kw (or higher) though.
11kW is possible on a single phase - they make electric showers and instant water heaters up to 12 - but you'd probably want to look into load mitigation, and while it's feasible I don't know if anyone makes one.

The larger transit custom version actually looks like after all these years of inadequate offerings they're actually going to make a ev van suitable for the urban focussed tradesman like myself. Hopefully being ev they can make it rwd too rather than the lousy fwd we have now?

Earthdweller

19,570 posts

156 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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BenS94 said:
Looking forward to the ICE versions. Had one from new for 6 years, only done 8,000 miles, it's been faultless until recently, where lack of use has caught up with it - 5 Michelin CrossClimate 2 tyres (one rear punctured whilst on the road and driven for a while before realising, so destroyed!) and now a spring has snapped, but I blame it sitting and water gathering at a certain point. Might replace it with a petrol powered new version, as long as they also offer a tailgate option.

Chosen because it felt like the most pleasant and car like of all the small vans tested to drive.

Ok go on I’ve got to ask why buy a commercial vehicle to only do 1200 miles a year in ?

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Earthdweller said:
Ok go on I’ve got to ask why buy a commercial vehicle to only do 1200 miles a year in ?
I'll bet I don't get to 2000 a year in my Vivaro. I certainly wouldn't be without it now though.

Reason is, when you need a van you need a van. I do up houses when I can be bothered and make a point of doing it locally. I leave all my tools in the van so my workshop is nice and accessible should I need it and use the van when I need to.