8 Series - Advice please

8 Series - Advice please

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olih

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12 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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Hi All,

I currently drive a TVR Chimaera, it was a 2nd car but due to some recent matrimonial altercations (I think thats a nice way of putting it) it has become my only car. It has been great during the summer and is used to dry miles, but I cant see the winter being much fun with it as my only car...... SO

I am thinking of getting an 8 series. I've always liked them and I think that they are the same money as the Chim.

Any advice?

I cant seem to find many manual ones??
840 or 850??
Performance?

Thanks.

Oli

r988

7,495 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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Theres a manual one parked just down the road from me, manuals are like hens teeth to find though

rassi

2,454 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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You would need to do your homework to avoid very, very big bills.

The 840 CI is as fast as the 850 and less thirsty and mechanically complex (watch out for the nikasil issue though), but an 850 CSI (5,6 litre V12, 380 bhp and manual) may be a better bet.

The word "warranty" springs to mind, and it may be worth seeking out one from a BMW dealer.

I take it you have also considered the E39 M5, which may be a better bet, really?

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

240 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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manuals were very rare. a fair number of steptronics were made so this might be what you look for instead.
roughly speaking both have similar performance.
as far as i have been able to find out it doesnt matter that much about miles on the engine. what really matters is how well it has been looked after. so i would agree with earlier posts and say that warranty would be very nice and getting it properly checked out would seem like a decent idea.

chris

fixedwheelnut

743 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th August 2005
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The 850 is drive by wire where as the 840 conventional throttle so allthough on paper its less power it is more driveable if that makes sense, plus the 840 is easier to work on

The 850 CSI is manual and more power have a go in one if you can find one

There are clean ones out there I have an 840 in for an Inspection one with 86000 on the clock and it's immaculate, very nice but I wouldn't want to own one to dear to run.

reardrive

2,121 posts

269 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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The brakes are not what you'd expect. They work ok - but need a hefty shove.

olih

Original Poster:

12 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Thanks All, lots to think about there.

I havent considered the E39 M5, what sort of money are they? Also, are they any cheaper to run? Everyone seems to be mentioning running costs, but surely the M5 is the same?

850csi would be great, but a good one is close to £20k and for that money I would go for the ZMCoupe.

I guess the real problem that I'm facing is that I want to keep the performance of the TVR with rear wheel drive, but with a roof and a bit of comfort for everyday...... Any other suggestions welcome, but I thought that a BMW would provide all of the above with reliability.

SO..... let me know if you know anyone with a post '96 840ci with FBMWSH that still has its BMW Warranty and wants a Chimaera. I dont ask for much do I!!!

800

1,968 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Love the 8 Series, great looking cars. But the repair costs put me off.
If you want rear wheel drive, a roof, and presumably great value for money, how about..............







XJR (I'll get my coat )

mmm-five

11,250 posts

285 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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I wouldn't compare the M-Coupe to the 850csi - the M-Coupe is a point & squirt sports car, the 850csi is a quick GT.

I'd love an 850csi (and I've almost bought one on two or three occasions), but as I need 4/5 seats both that and the M-Coupe are out - along with all the TVRs I fancy.

For the £20k you'd spend on an e39 M5, 850csi, or M-Coupe - I would go for a sensible (but quick) 4/5 seater and a second car for fun - M-Roadster, 840/850i.

eliot

11,445 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Take a good look at an M5. 8xx could get very expensive (yes, even compared to an m5!). Theres a thread on this forum about tvr<>bmw upgrades(?)

One other thing that put me off them is that someone once described them as a "rich mans ford probe" - And i can sorta agree! (Having actually owned a ford probe...ughh.)

>> Edited by eliot on Thursday 25th August 10:45

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

240 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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e39 M5s are now getting to be less than 20k. so if that is the sort of money you are thinking of spending then it is definitely a worthy choice.

i will be getting an 840 next year but its not for that sort of money. i am going for an 8/9k car and saving some for essentials.

chris

olih

Original Poster:

12 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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Well, the decision could have been made for me.....

Take a look at the 850csi that was posted on the pistonheads classifieds today. Its a thing of beauty and still has its BMW warranty!!

Oh well, the house will have to wait.

Broccers

3,236 posts

254 months

Thursday 25th August 2005
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olih said:
Well, the decision could have been made for me.....

Take a look at the 850csi that was posted on the pistonheads classifieds today. Its a thing of beauty and still has its BMW warranty!!

Oh well, the house will have to wait.


How nice is that car ?????

Lovely especially with the warranty still running a safer than normal bet it wont cost you a fortune in the future.

800

1,968 posts

237 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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What a beast! Have adored that car for a while from the images on miracledetail.

Do it, do it, do it!

eliot

11,445 posts

255 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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Check out the cost of the warranty though. for a 7 its around £1500 - 8 will be the same or more.

Broccers

3,236 posts

254 months

Friday 26th August 2005
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eliot said:
Check out the cost of the warranty though. for a 7 its around £1500 - 8 will be the same or more.


The same but saying that 1500 a year is nothing compared to the possible outlay should something go wrong.

poorcardealer

8,526 posts

242 months

Monday 29th August 2005
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Full exhaust for an 8 series is four grand IIRC..............!

M3 Mitch

538 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st September 2005
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Perhaps consider keeping your TVR and buy a banger of some sort for winter duty? When we have what little snow as we get here, M3 stays in the garage, thanks, and I drive the old Scirocco.

It's possible to have only one car and drive it year round, and still keep it really nice, but it's hard to do. Much easier to keep a banger.

Or as a temporary dodge lease a small Toyota, something like that, if you have to have a "presentable" car in your job...

The 850 CSI is a GREAT car IMHO but I don't see it as that different in performance envelope to your TVR.

shadowfax

1,103 posts

242 months

Monday 10th October 2005
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Two things: First - Keep the TVR, get a runaraound for less than a grand, and it'll soon be spring. PS That £6.500 grand one is still for sale on here, just incase.

Second - the 8 series hankering's over as quick as it came. Reminded me of all the hassles with the XJS and sounds like twice the price. Nice thread. Therapeutic before bed



>> Edited by shadowfax on Monday 10th October 23:25