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ruwokeenuff

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409 posts

40 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I havent bought a car from a dealer for a while, so am sort of out of touch re a bit of wheeling n dealing.

I am looking at buying a car of around £10-£13k ish. In the past its been less than that going private but at that price, the warranty that dealers also offer gives me a little bit of piece of mind etc..... IF something goes soon after I buy. (yes I know things might break after the warranty expires).

What sort of lower offer price offer are people starting at for say a £12k car. cash of course. OR is there a good short term warranty available should I buy private....

Ian Geary

5,534 posts

219 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Hi

To me, it depends on the value of the car when new (which we don't know)

£12k might get you a 3 year old city car.

£12k might get you a 10 year old golf

£12k might get you a 20 year old (ropey) RS4

And so on.

From what I've read, I wouldn't place much value on dealer warranties for anything beyond say 7 years old, as many faults will be dismissed as wear and tear.

What you're referring to is the statutory rights when buying from a dealer: the strength of which depends a lot on how much you trust the dealer.

If a car is still in its manufacturer warranty then that's different to of course, or a marque where maintaining dealer service history is helps maintain value.


As a diyer however, I tend to buy under my budget and then hold money back to just fix anything that needs it.


So perhaps I'm not the best person to advise.

Reading threads on here also suggests it is more of a sellers market these days, so buyers are less likely to haggle discounts on used cars.

Ian

coldel

10,790 posts

173 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
I havent bought a car from a dealer for a while, so am sort of out of touch re a bit of wheeling n dealing.

I am looking at buying a car of around £10-£13k ish. In the past its been less than that going private but at that price, the warranty that dealers also offer gives me a little bit of piece of mind etc..... IF something goes soon after I buy. (yes I know things might break after the warranty expires).

What sort of lower offer price offer are people starting at for say a £12k car. cash of course. OR is there a good short term warranty available should I buy private....
Its not the warranty that you benefit from buying from a dealer (to be honest its cheaper to buy private and get your own warranty if thats important to you) its the Consumer Rights Act that is the real benefit buying from a dealer.

Muzzer79

12,867 posts

214 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
What sort of lower offer price offer are people starting at for say a £12k car. cash of course. OR is there a good short term warranty available should I buy private....
Impossible question to answer

Depends on the car, how popular it is, how long it’s been for sale, time of year and many other factors.

Benchmark it (honestly) against similar cars for sale is the best you can really do.

coldel

10,790 posts

173 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I read somewhere ballpark average people get about 7% off.
It is average and individual circumstances apply.

ruwokeenuff

Original Poster:

409 posts

40 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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The car is going to be probably maybe.....a 2010 sl350. value....around £10-£12k. Most dealers will offer a 3 month warranty...hence me leaning towards that, BUT if a similar car came along for say £1K cheaper...is it worth it...maybe not. Plus getting a 6 month/1 year warranty for a 13/14 yr old car with 80K+ miles on it.

Edited by ruwokeenuff on Friday 7th April 10:03

coldel

10,790 posts

173 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I said it up there, but dont rely on the warranty. Often covers very little and you have to pay for stuff on top. Read through this forum and see all the worthless warranties that come about when things go wrong. The consumer rights act is what covers you in the event something goes wrong.

HTP99

24,987 posts

167 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!

ruwokeenuff

Original Poster:

409 posts

40 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead

Decky_Q

2,059 posts

204 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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If I go to see a car I'm usually happy that if it's all good I'm going to pay the asking price. I dont see something at 12k and think 'oh that means he really wants 11.5k so I'll haggle 500 off.'

If a wheel needs refurbed or a component is showing it need repair or replaced I'll usually agree to buy if they either sort the problem or give me the cash off to sort it myself.

A few times I've spotted something just above my budget I'll send them a message saying i dont want to waste our time, I've been looking at X but my budget is lower than the asking price, do you think we can work something out and alot of the time they will agree to come down to my level before seeing the car.

HTP99

24,987 posts

167 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead
Enlighten me?

ChrisH72

3,017 posts

79 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead
I thought it was a fair comment really. Everyone knows that discounts on used cars have become difficult to negotiate recently. Also, if its a rare car that you can't easily buy elsewhere for less then I'd say there's little chance of money off. No harm in asking of course but I wouldn't bother looking at anything I wouldn't be prepared to pay asking price for nowadays.

Dingu

4,893 posts

57 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead
Times have changed

Easternlight

3,896 posts

171 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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You can always haggle, but in the end you have to be ready to pay the asking or walk!
More so at the moment than ever!

Shabaza

289 posts

124 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Speaking as someone with plenty of experience working in car dealerships,
Unless the car has been there over 30 days (sometimes 60) where it becomes 'overage stock', you are unlikely to get money off the car, theyre unlikely to even budge on admin fees.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

200 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead
He makes a perfectly valid point. If a good car is priced right it will sell quickly anyway.

The stuff you're likely to get a discount on you're getting it for a reason.

Unreal

10,172 posts

52 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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That sort of money is likely to mean a car priced by the book. I'd be suspicious if it was significantly cheaper than the same spec elsewhere from the same level of dealer.

It's still worth asking for a discount but only if you are ready to do the deal on the spot. You're unlikely to do better than 5-10% off though and for a popular model probably no chance at all.

valiant

13,924 posts

187 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ruwokeenuff said:
HTP99 said:
If the car is priced and presented well and as it should be, comparible to the market, then don't expect anything off, why should you!


banghead
Just back from buying my next car.

Not one penny off.




Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

268 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Easternlight said:
You can always haggle, but in the end you have to be ready to pay the asking or walk!
More so at the moment than ever!
Exactly.

You walk.

People need to get better at walking.

ruwokeenuff

Original Poster:

409 posts

40 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Shabaza said:
Speaking as someone with plenty of experience working in car dealerships,
Unless the car has been there over 30 days (sometimes 60) where it becomes 'overage stock', you are unlikely to get money off the car, theyre unlikely to even budge on admin fees.
Great point TY