Cars v Potholes
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bodmino

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87 posts

155 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I was just thinking today that car manufacturers should be building cars which are tolerant of the road conditions on which they are driven.

As most roads are now in a disgraceful condition with little prospect of improvement, the manufacturers should be reflecting this in their suspension/wheel/tyre configuration. The days of low profile tyres on huge wheels are over.

What’s the point in having low profile tyres on hugely expensive alloys when there’s a very high chance they will be ruined very quickly?

I’m not advocating Chelsea tractors for everyone, but small cheap cars should have high profile tyres.

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Consumers choose form over function.

bitchstewie

68,002 posts

240 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Just had a new car which has 185/65 R15 tyres.

Makes a massive difference with the state of the roads at the moment.

Hoofy

80,108 posts

312 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Every trip feels like a Top Gear challenge these days.

Dingu

4,893 posts

60 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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bodmino said:
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What’s the point in having low profile tyres on hugely expensive alloys when there’s a very high chance they will be ruined very quickly?
It’s what people want/buy.

BoRED S2upid

21,070 posts

270 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Roads round here are pretty good. You report a pothole and it gets fixed.

bodmino

Original Poster:

87 posts

155 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
Roads round here are pretty good. You report a pothole and it gets fixed.
You obviously don’t live in Edinburgh!

Dingu

4,893 posts

60 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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bodmino said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Roads round here are pretty good. You report a pothole and it gets fixed.
You obviously don’t live in Edinburgh!
So by most roads you mean most in Edinburgh?

lemonslap

1,029 posts

185 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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bodmino said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Roads round here are pretty good. You report a pothole and it gets fixed.
You obviously don’t live in Edinburgh!
Here in Kent they seem to of stopped bothering to repair, I keep reporting but the requests then disappear from the online tool after two weeks! It’s causing accidents around here now, a persistent hole local to us is around a blind bend so large a traffic cone sits in it. Unfortunately there is only just room for 2 cars to pass and you can imagine the rest… Every drive feels like the car is taking an a massive amount of abuse due to the state of things.

V8covin

10,220 posts

223 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Dingu said:
It’s what people want/buy.
Is it ?
What choice do you get when buying.....or leasing which is more common.....a new car ?
I think it's more a case of what manufacturers think sells

BlackRumple

21 posts

57 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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V8covin said:
Is it ?
What choice do you get when buying.....or leasing which is more common.....a new car ?
I think it's more a case of what manufacturers think sells
This ^^

Its the same with cars now having haptic feedback and screens galore over buttons. I hate them but what choice do i have? Most new cars are not offered with the option anymore. It’s take it or forget buying a new car.


anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I had an XC40 loaner recently and it was an absolute dream over the rural roads around where I live.

HHZ

111 posts

70 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Steel wheels with Paddy Hopkirk trims need to make a comeback.

Zarco

21,092 posts

239 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Are the roads rubbish in the rest of the world where cars are developed?

I suppose they could do a special UK spec with twice as much suspension travel/tyre profile/rugged suspension.

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

203 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I've not once looked at my 60 and 65 profile tyres and wished they were smaller or lamented the relatively huge arch gap.

Bobupndown

2,981 posts

73 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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I have these fitted, no problems whatsoever. beer

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

203 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Zarco said:
Are the roads rubbish in the rest of the world where cars are developed?

I suppose they could do a special UK spec with twice as much suspension travel/tyre profile/rugged suspension.
Not in Germany where most of them are made.

Not sure what JLR's excuse is.

parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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bodmino said:
I was just thinking today that car manufacturers should be building cars which are tolerant of the road conditions on which they are driven.

As most roads are now in a disgraceful condition with little prospect of improvement, the manufacturers should be reflecting this in their suspension/wheel/tyre configuration. The days of low profile tyres on huge wheels are over.

What’s the point in having low profile tyres on hugely expensive alloys when there’s a very high chance they will be ruined very quickly?

I’m not advocating Chelsea tractors for everyone, but small cheap cars should have high profile tyres.
Car manufacturers are not responsible for the state of British roads; councils are. If consumers want to be safer/sensible about mitigating the risk of punctures and bent wheels, they should spec the smallest wheels possible or buy aftermarket wheels with high sidewalls. Otherwise, you pay your money and take the risks with bigger wheels.

I'm in eastern europe and it's pretty common to see cars or all kinds (new and old) with steel wheels and large tyres. I remember being in St Lucia where almost everyone had aftermarket chrome wheels on their cars, but almost always with huge tyres with tons of side wall.

djc206

13,596 posts

155 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Not in Germany where most of them are made.

Not sure what JLR's excuse is.
They use huge diameters so they don’t need an excuse.

Turn7

25,750 posts

251 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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Took the 17s off my daily, fitted 15 Steelies and Goodyear Vectors...

Definitely the right thing to for my commute over crappy B roads.