RE: Mini Cooper S (R56) | PH Fleet
RE: Mini Cooper S (R56) | PH Fleet
Saturday 15th April 2023

Mini Cooper S (R56) | PH Fleet

1,500 miles in and all is mostly marvellous in the Mini


Hopefully, new (used) car anxiety is a feeling we all get. You can do all the research and checks and test drives in the world, but buying someone else’s old car still can feel like a leap of faith. The first weeks seem to be spent listening for ominous rattles and groans (from the car, that is), assuming a worst-case scenario for every imperfection and generally driving around extremely delicately indeed.

Perhaps I’m just overly cautious. And obviously now I’ve expressed some optimism about the state of the Mini, something catastrophic will go wrong. But in everything it’s been tasked with so far - as a station car, for motorway miles, and the occasional fun drive when time and weather permits - the Mini has been brilliant. Small enough to be fun, grown up enough to be liveable, fast yet frugal, vaguely cool looking but not so pristine I fret about it parked up. One particularly enjoyable drive recently was to Lydden Hill for the 911 Dakar drive; it was a 300-mile round trip in mostly appalling weather, but the little Cooper S was assured on the motorway, comfy for hours at the wheel, a perfect little scallywag when the opportunities arose and usefully parsimonious: a refuel towards the end of the day showed a predicted range of 536 miles. Useful on a 50-litre tank; the trip computer suggests we’re averaging almost 38mpg.

Of course, things aren’t perfect - not that I expected them to be on a 12-year-old, 70,000-mile car that only cost £6k. Having been spoilt with modern infotainment, the Mini - though not bad in terms of sound quality - does feel very, well, 2011 in its tech. The Bluetooth phone pairing was a cinch, and works well; however, it doesn’t allow for media playback, and the car doesn’t like any of the USB cables I’ve used. Z Bluetooth adaptor recommended delivered as much fizz and crackle through the Aux input as it did sound. All recommendations gladly received - maybe I’ll have to start buying CDs again.

Frustratingly, new rear tyres were needed at purchase. In my excitement at finally finding a suitable car and seeing four matching Michelin Pilot Sport 4s, I didn’t check them over properly. A slight crashiness and waywardness I’d attributed to the rusty springs all around (they’re being replaced on Monday) was also being caused by rear rubber way past it’s best. That was £300 I really didn’t want to spend, but the car is improved for new PS4s. And it’ll be a lesson for next time, you stupid bloody idiot.

That already feels a long time ago now, though. When those centre-exit pipes are parping and the Mini is flitting this way and that just like - sorry - a go-kart, while going far faster than I think 184hp should make it go, it’s a hoot. Ideally, the Sport exhaust setting (which is brilliant; the rear seats are now down permanently) could be selected independently of the heavier steering, but I can live with it. It’ll be interesting to see what impact the new springs have, too; I suspect it’ll be the much more expensive job of fresh dampers that properly resolves what can be a restless ride.

Finally, I must mention my first couple of small changes. The horrible numberplates are gone, as are those reflectors, the latter thanks to dental floss and tar remover - they really were stuck on properly! The Mini is much better looking as a result, which I was really enjoying when cleaning it in the breaks between the rain recently. Shame the paint probably has an above-average number of blemishes to it, but then having so many almost reduces the desire to rectify them - more than a couple of touch-up chips, you just know it would be into much more serious paint correction very quickly, which I don’t want. The wheels, on the other hand, I’m really keen to get refurbed, if only because they make the car look so good even in less than perfect condition. Imagine how nice it could be. Having freshly done wheels near the kerbs at my house would do nothing for the anxiety, though…


FACT SHEET 

Car: 2011 Mini Cooper S
Run by: 
Matt Bird
On fleet since: 
February 2023
Mileage: 
72,648

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howardhughes

Original Poster:

1,418 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Huge fan of the R56 Shape, especially the with the full kit. It looks perfect from every angle. Lovely car that.

GreatScott2016

2,549 posts

118 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Yep, fab looking thing and a hoot to drive!

Bobupndown

2,980 posts

73 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Nice colour too, it doesn't look 12 years old either.

ingenieur

4,653 posts

211 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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dunno if it's still a problem on that model year but if it starts putting engine warning lights up on the dash then it's the cam sprockets slipping. Could probably just reset them and fit new stretch bolts to the sprockets... never tried that, always did the whole timing kit. They also have a thermostat housing that cracks easily which can lead to head gasket trouble. Got to watch out for that... who really knows whether it's chicken or egg with that fault.

BALDER5

37 posts

126 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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My wife just got a 2009 R56 cooper S as a run about. It's only got a 1. 6L n/a engine with 120 bhp but it's really nippy around town. It runs out of puff on motorway but that's no what it was designed for. It a proper little go kart.

As above the R56 shape is the best bmw made for the mini. It still looks good now!

Speedgirl

291 posts

197 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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I don’t know much about Minis but yours looks lovely and timeless. For Bluetooth streaming try this - Anker Soundsync Bluetooth Receiver for Music Streaming with Bluetooth 5.0 - about £25. Works really well in my old 6er which only has an aux in but a good hifi. And don’t buy CDs - get a drive and burn them.

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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BALDER5 said:
My wife just got a 2009 R56 cooper S as a run about. It's only got a 1. 6L n/a engine
It's not a S then, just a cooper .

deja.vu

456 posts

46 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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BALDER5 said:
My wife just got a 2009 R56 cooper S as a run about. It's only got a 1. 6L n/a engine with 120 bhp but it's really nippy around town. It runs out of puff on motorway but that's no what it was designed for. It a proper little go kart.

As above the R56 shape is the best bmw made for the mini. It still looks good now!
Am I being thick?
If it’s n/a 120bhp then it’s not a Cooper S?

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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That’s looks great.
As an R53 owner I’m very intrigued by the R56. I love the character the supercharger gives the R53 but being an old git I also like the idea of the more refined later car. I’m also a fan of the opinion splitting Clubman.
Following these articles with interest so please keep them coming.

Robertb

3,884 posts

268 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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I bought a lovely 60k mile 2009 Cooper for my daughters to learn to drive in. Cost a princely £2k in 2020. It’s absolutely brilliant and I often drive it… just the ticket for scooting down little lanes.

I imagine the S is great!

deja.vu

456 posts

46 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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ballans said:
That’s looks great.
As an R53 owner I’m very intrigued by the R56. I love the character the supercharger gives the R53 but being an old git I also like the idea of the more refined later car. I’m also a fan of the opinion splitting Clubman.
Following these articles with interest so please keep them coming.
My wife had an R56 Cooper S, great car ruined by a chocolate engine, the R53 would have been better.
We picked up a Cooper S Clubman yesterday to replace my wife's Abarth, it seems a really nice piece of kit.



chris116

1,239 posts

198 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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That looks really smart.

dirky dirk

3,447 posts

200 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Im sorry

But i hate minis, we got given one for free and 2550 later it still wasnt right.
We never got to the bottom of the oil leaks

It literally knew when it wasa dry weekend and wanted bits doing


WayOutWest

1,240 posts

88 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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They look so much better with the JCW aerokit. The JCW Challenge wheels look great but are a bit of a pain to clean, so I can see why some people got them in black rather than silver. The steering wheel (part of the whole package) looks nice in pictures with faux red stitching, but is actually plastic rather than real leather, so an alcantara retrim from Royal was on my to do list before I sold.

The biggest irritation with mine was the crashy ride, and while moving to 215/45 non-runflats did help, I was also looking at Koni FSD/Special Active dampers which can be run with either standard or Eibach springs:
https://www.lohen.co.uk/koni-fsd-sport-dampers-gen...

I realise chucking over a grand at the suspension (by the time you include springs and fitting) on a £6k car is a bit much unless it is a keeper.
I thought coilovers would be a bit much just for road use given the standard car can barely clear speed humps without scuffing the front.

cerb4.5lee

44,916 posts

210 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Pleased to hear that you're enjoying it. thumbup

I was never "into" MINIs until I had one, but I ended up really enjoying/loving mine though. Yours makes me miss mine a lot.

mike9009

10,967 posts

273 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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deja.vu said:
ballans said:
That’s looks great.
As an R53 owner I’m very intrigued by the R56. I love the character the supercharger gives the R53 but being an old git I also like the idea of the more refined later car. I’m also a fan of the opinion splitting Clubman.
Following these articles with interest so please keep them coming.
My wife had an R56 Cooper S, great car ruined by a chocolate engine, the R53 would have been better.
We picked up a Cooper S Clubman yesterday to replace my wife's Abarth, it seems a really nice piece of kit.
We have owned a R53 and R55 (Clubman). The R53 is the better drivers car. Balanced and poised. I preferred the interior in the R53 too, felt better screwed together.

The R55 was more refined and more comfortable, with the additional space obviously more practical too. The torque steer was actually quite enjoyable. It probably felt quicker with the sudden shove from the turbo. Weirdly, both cars I preferred the RFT tyres on too. Seemed to give better feedback although the ride was a little harsher.

In terms of Bork factor, both seemed the same. Power steering pump went on the R53 and water pump housing and excessive oil consumption on the R55 were some of the issues.

R56 stereo upgrade path is tricky, because of the built in nature and integration of the stereo. Back in the day, I used a parrot kit to get things working better. This also gave a better sound quality as the installed stereo amplifier was intentionally hampered.

It sounds like the 3.5mm jack is knackered in the ocar in the article, (should be an easy replacement) but I would be looking at an Amazon Echo Auto as a suitable modern update ......

mgregoryc

5 posts

81 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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tl;dr - Anker Soundsync for Bluetooth audio adapter, £23 on Amazon.

Bought a 2010 Clio RS recently and had the same audio problem! Looked into replacing the whole unit, but couldn't face £300 for something invariably in early 00s Boy-Racer style.

Bought the Anker Soundsync chargeable Bluetooth adapter — sound quality brilliant, simply plug into the AUX input. Comes with connector. Battery lasts about 10 hours. Just carry a micro-USB charging cable with you and that's no longer a concern.

georgeyboy12345

4,632 posts

65 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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How long before we start reading about timing chains?

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Had both Cooper S and JCW, both hatch and roadster and thought they were really great cars, but only the roadster was run into longer years and it did seem to have a few issues. Heater issues, heated seat packed up and the offside suspension collapsed, along with numerous niggles. It just started to become a money pit and I was happy to see it go which was a shame because as a package they are brilliant cars, I'm just not sure about the build quality.


Dift

1,687 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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ballans said:
That’s looks great.
As an R53 owner I’m very intrigued by the R56. I love the character the supercharger gives the R53 but being an old git I also like the idea of the more refined later car. I’m also a fan of the opinion splitting Clubman.
Following these articles with interest so please keep them coming.
The R56 are great cars (if you buy wisely).

I've owned a few R50, R55, R56, and currently have a cooper (nonS) R56 and the very last UK registered R53.

The R56, is a lovely car, clearly a more mature evolution of the R53. For a daily driver there aren't many better places to sit (for my needs).
It can happily can be used for the daily grind, with the ability to throw it into corners and roundabouts when the opportunity arises. It munches the miles without taking it's toll on the driver.

However, the R53 is far more fun and, more importantly, an event to drive. The R53 can do the daily grind, my current one is a little bit of a garage queen, however when the weather is right and the traffic is good, the R53 is untouchable (for a 4 seater).

The R56 will always be the choice when the weather is inclement or traffic heavy