Bullfighting still a sport
Discussion
As a follow on from some comments in the horse racing thread, I was advised to start a separate thread on the subject of bullfighting.
I have never been to spectate a bullfight and will admit that should any element of this ‘sport’ appear on television then I switch channels to avoid looking at the event. I don’t feel I am missing out on anything, but it is still a very popular ‘sport’ elsewhere. Perhaps it is wrong to impose my values on others, but it just doesn’t seem to sit rightly as a ‘sport’ in the modern World to me.
It seems to be a throwback in time to consider and enjoy this ‘sport’, it is barbaric in nature and has a medieval sense of truimfulism attached to it, much like the gladiator in Roman times.
A quick google and I’m surprised that the ‘sport’ is still legal in France, Portugal, Mexico, Columbia,
Venezuela, Peru and Ecuador. I didn’t realise that so many Countries still permit bullfighting.
Makes our horse racing seem like a day out at the seaside.
I thought fox hunting was a ‘sport’ from the past and has quite rightly been banned from our shores,
seems we are more advanced in our attitudes to animals after all.
Discuss.
I have never been to spectate a bullfight and will admit that should any element of this ‘sport’ appear on television then I switch channels to avoid looking at the event. I don’t feel I am missing out on anything, but it is still a very popular ‘sport’ elsewhere. Perhaps it is wrong to impose my values on others, but it just doesn’t seem to sit rightly as a ‘sport’ in the modern World to me.
It seems to be a throwback in time to consider and enjoy this ‘sport’, it is barbaric in nature and has a medieval sense of truimfulism attached to it, much like the gladiator in Roman times.
A quick google and I’m surprised that the ‘sport’ is still legal in France, Portugal, Mexico, Columbia,
Venezuela, Peru and Ecuador. I didn’t realise that so many Countries still permit bullfighting.
Makes our horse racing seem like a day out at the seaside.
I thought fox hunting was a ‘sport’ from the past and has quite rightly been banned from our shores,
seems we are more advanced in our attitudes to animals after all.
Discuss.
It's abhorrent but very much part of Spanish culture as they regard it.
I can't see Spain banning it any time soon, along with their cruelty to donkeys.
Whilst we continuously beat ourselves up about, inter alia, animal welfare in the UK, wider Europe does need to put its house in order on animal welfare and we do tend to lead rather than follow them in that regard.
I can't see Spain banning it any time soon, along with their cruelty to donkeys.
Whilst we continuously beat ourselves up about, inter alia, animal welfare in the UK, wider Europe does need to put its house in order on animal welfare and we do tend to lead rather than follow them in that regard.
In some ways it feels even worse than hunting, the poor animal is kept alive for as long as possible to be slowly killed in front of a baying crowd. It may be a tradition, but so was slavery, serfdom and burning people for witchcraft and I'm sure people defended them for the same reason.
Gecko1978 said:
I always liked the idea the bull could win sometimes but iirc eventually it dies and there is a huge uproar when a bull fighter dies.
This is the thing if it was a fair fight and the bull won more often they would think twice about the sport. The running of the bulls in Pamplona on the other hand several fools get to feel the full force of the bull.
I don't like it, but then it isn't practised in the UK, which is fine and dandy.
It's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
It's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
I went to a bull fight in Portugal back in the 80s. Big stadium near Lisbon which was packed out. We were served ice cold beer & various tapas like dishes, including octopus tentacles in tomato sauce.
I think the bull was stabbed several times, but not actually killed. I remember the beasts being utterly traumatised, clearly in pain & salivating uncontrollably. The crowd appeared to love it, but I think I'll not revisit.....
I think the bull was stabbed several times, but not actually killed. I remember the beasts being utterly traumatised, clearly in pain & salivating uncontrollably. The crowd appeared to love it, but I think I'll not revisit.....
Iamnotkloot said:
I don't like it, but then it isn't practised in the UK, which is fine and dandy.
It's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
No progress has ever been made thinking like this. And in time hopefully it’ll die out in Spain, I’d imagine the average age of a fan isn’t going to be young so as the world becomes more and more global and aware the Spanish youth of today will realise how fIt's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
king disgusting it is. It’s culture to mutilate genitals of kids too in certain parts of the world, do you have the same opinion of that? Let them crack on?
okgo said:
Iamnotkloot said:
I don't like it, but then it isn't practised in the UK, which is fine and dandy.
It's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
No progress has ever been made thinking like this. And in time hopefully it’ll die out in Spain, I’d imagine the average age of a fan isn’t going to be young so as the world becomes more and more global and aware the Spanish youth of today will realise how fIt's their (Spanish) culture, who gives us the right to determine what they can and can't do? Lots of other countries do horrible things to animals (not just China with their infamous Dog cooking festival), and at some point, you just have to let other cultures do their own thing.
king disgusting it is. It’s culture to mutilate genitals of kids too in certain parts of the world, do you have the same opinion of that? Let them crack on?
My wife is half Spanish, obviously has a number of Spanish relatives living out there. I'm not aware of any of them who like the "sport". These are people who live in rural Castilla–La Mancha, rather than metropolitan Madrid/Barcelona/etc.Fundoreen said:
I thought we loved dog fighting in the uk. Everyone seems to own a dog which looks like a champion dogfighter.
Every day tons and tons of dog on dog and human assaults.
At least in spain animal/human fights are organized with rules.
I suppose that was also the case in ancient Rome....Every day tons and tons of dog on dog and human assaults.
At least in spain animal/human fights are organized with rules.
Fundoreen said:
I thought we loved dog fighting in the uk. Everyone seems to own a dog which looks like a champion dogfighter.
Every day tons and tons of dog on dog and human assaults.
At least in spain animal/human fights are organized with rules.
...I guess that depends on whether you loik dagsEvery day tons and tons of dog on dog and human assaults.
At least in spain animal/human fights are organized with rules.
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