Intermittent dead battery (MX-5 2000)
Intermittent dead battery (MX-5 2000)
Author
Discussion

TheLoraxxZeus

Original Poster:

552 posts

49 months

Friday 21st April 2023
quotequote all
Not sure what is causing this but it's a weird one. It's happened 3x in a year.

For some reason it appears battery just goes dead, or at least that's what it looks like. I can drive it for weeks/months with no issue, then suddenly when I take it for a drive it just refuses to show any electrical activity what so ever. I've solved this each time by simply disconnecting the negative terminal for a few minutes, then it starts up right away as if nothing happened. It will continue to run without issues.

To be clear, zero power, not that he car won't turn over.

The car was not started between October and March, and started up first time when it was put back on the road start of the this month. So don't think there is something draining the battery.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Battery was replaced last year, it's on the original alternator. Was thinking of just replacing battery + alternator and hope for the best.

E-bmw

13,439 posts

182 months

Friday 21st April 2023
quotequote all
Battery/engine terminal not connected correctly.

Most likely either the one you take off or the other end of that cable/engine earth.

Undo/clean/refit all & it will likely never happen again.

TheLoraxxZeus

Original Poster:

552 posts

49 months

Friday 21st April 2023
quotequote all
E-bmw said:
Battery/engine terminal not connected correctly.

Most likely either the one you take off or the other end of that cable/engine earth.

Undo/clean/refit all & it will likely never happen again.
So disconnect wiring from battery to engine, check it all, whack it back together?

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Friday 21st April 2023
quotequote all
Cable itself may be defective.
The plastic covered earth straps often used connecting engine to body can look absolutely fine at the ends but have rotted away under the plastic.
Check & clean.

If it does it again try connecting a decent jump lead directly from a good clean metal point on the engine to the battery earth terminal & see what happens.

I don't think it's anything to do with the battery or the alternator.

Edited by paintman on Friday 21st April 16:48

E-bmw

13,439 posts

182 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
quotequote all
TheLoraxxZeus said:
E-bmw said:
Battery/engine terminal not connected correctly.

Most likely either the one you take off or the other end of that cable/engine earth.

Undo/clean/refit all & it will likely never happen again.
So disconnect wiring from battery to engine, check it all, whack it back together?
Also wire brush the wire lug & the terminal it is going on to make sure it is clean.

Dave.

7,896 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
quotequote all
What's the earth on the PPF like?

MXRod

2,858 posts

177 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
quotequote all
The battery is relatively smaii ,and the drain caused by alarm etc is sufficient to flatten in a matter of 3/4 weeks of inactivity ,I know as had the same problem when I first got mine 20 odd years ago .
I now have a Acumate charger permanently installed and whenever the car is parked at home it is on the maintainer.

E-bmw

13,439 posts

182 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
quotequote all
Dave. said:
What's the earth on the PPF like?
Earth on Paint Protection Film?????

Dave.

7,896 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
quotequote all
E-bmw said:
Dave. said:
What's the earth on the PPF like?
Earth on Paint Protection Film?????
Power plant frame.... The only structural piece of an MX5 which doesn't rust hehe (but the earth cable attached to it does)


Belle427

11,912 posts

263 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
quotequote all
I know on older cars the ground in the boot next to battery could fail too so worth checking.

TheLoraxxZeus

Original Poster:

552 posts

49 months

Monday 24th April 2023
quotequote all
Thanks for all the replies. I am going to have a look at the wire housing and ground points, I'll also clean up the battery terminals/connectors and see how it goes!

Dave.

7,896 posts

283 months

Monday 24th April 2023
quotequote all
There's also an odd "connection" near the battery, which may be past its best.


https://forum.mx5oc.co.uk/t/mk1-corroded-ppf-earth...