Italian speeding ticket
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Pit Pony

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10,782 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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May 2022 I went on a work visit to Verona.

Yesterday I got a speeding ticket for 8 kph over the 90 kph limit.

The only thing I remember about the whole trip was that in an unfamiliar hire car and open roads, I drove like a nun.

11 months. Ago.

Pebbles167

4,438 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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If you intend to go back, my advice would be pay up. Can't imagine it's much, is it?

Pit Pony

Original Poster:

10,782 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Just paid it. 69 euro.
fking italian website wouldn't translate to English, so it took 2 hours.

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

205 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Pay it and find a way to stick it on expenses.

Pit Pony

Original Poster:

10,782 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Tribal Chestnut said:
Pay it and find a way to stick it on expenses.
I have a receipt. Might have to use the "road toll" section of the expences form.

HIAO

185 posts

116 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Pit Pony said:
I have a receipt. Might have to use the "road toll" section of the expences form.
That’s how to turn a moderate annoyance into a career ending situation.

E-bmw

12,151 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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Pit Pony said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
Pay it and find a way to stick it on expenses.
I have a receipt. Might have to use the "road toll" section of the expences form.
That would fall into the category "strange way to hand your notice in" just don't.

Griffith4ever

6,297 posts

58 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Pebbles167 said:
If you intend to go back, my advice would be pay up. Can't imagine it's much, is it?
you think they check that at the border entry do you? rolleyes

blueg33

44,570 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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HIAO said:
Pit Pony said:
I have a receipt. Might have to use the "road toll" section of the expences form.
That’s how to turn a moderate annoyance into a career ending situation.
Indeed

QBee

22,097 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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blueg33 said:
HIAO said:
Pit Pony said:
I have a receipt. Might have to use the "road toll" section of the expences form.
That’s how to turn a moderate annoyance into a career ending situation.
Indeed
I fired someone for lying on his expenses.
There were other issues, but the expenses tipped the balance.

george123

467 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Ignore it. I received a ticket in Italy dating back to 2016 I think for entering a restricted town centre which I didn’t even remember doing.

Eventually it was passed to a debt collection agency in the uk who had bought the debt. They sent letters to me asking for an inflated payment. I wrote back for details of how they arrived at the figure and how it was enforceable in the UK.

After a bit of back and forth , I never heard again. Then months later I was written to my another debt agency who had subsequently bought the debt. Same thing again …. And again …..

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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I got flashed a couple of times on a European trip last week.

Really annoying as the first one was in Switzerland on the motorway on a bend so it was 60kph. I was in a long line of traffic and following a van so the flash in the face came as a shock. Looked down and an indicated 65kph.

The second was on a French N road that kept varying between 90/100/110 not always with the best signage and at night, no other cars. Reckon I was at most 6 or 7kph over, another flash.

Annoying as I was trying to be careful, setting the cruise whenever I could.

Was under the assumption (presumably wrongly) that they didn't find there way back to the UK post Brexit?

Dog Star

17,287 posts

191 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Griffith4ever said:
you think they check that at the border entry do you? rolleyes
Absolutely- they’ve got the hire company’s details. How can they know who was driving.

If it was your own personal vehicle they’d not be able to get your details anymore - the one and only benefit of Brexit that I can see.

I’d be quite comfortable about filing them in the bin.

Griffith4ever

6,297 posts

58 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Dog Star said:
Griffith4ever said:
you think they check that at the border entry do you? rolleyes
Absolutely- they’ve got the hire company’s details. How can they know who was driving.

If it was your own personal vehicle they’d not be able to get your details anymore - the one and only benefit of Brexit that I can see.

I’d be quite comfortable about filing them in the bin.
Even with a hire car they are not going to inform the border to check for an outstanding traffic fine, nor inform Interpol :---)

Use the same car hire co. again? of course not.


pitlane

300 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Ignoring it all is all fine and well, right up until you get pulled over for a random traffic stop.

It's not like this is unusual in Europe, very normal that the Police set up traffic stops on random roundabouts / toll booths and pull vehicles randomly.

When they do this, they generally run the drivers details through their systems as a matter of course. This is when you don't want unpaid and ignored traffic violations showing up....

It's really not worth the hassle of not paying if you plan on driving in that country again.

(speaking from experience of colleagues who have ignored it expecting it to not come back and bite them on the arse - it did)

courty

539 posts

100 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
I got flashed a couple of times on a European trip last week.

Really annoying as the first one was in Switzerland on the motorway on a bend so it was 60kph. I was in a long line of traffic and following a van so the flash in the face came as a shock. Looked down and an indicated 65kph.

The second was on a French N road that kept varying between 90/100/110 not always with the best signage and at night, no other cars. Reckon I was at most 6 or 7kph over, another flash.

Annoying as I was trying to be careful, setting the cruise whenever I could.

Was under the assumption (presumably wrongly) that they didn't find there way back to the UK post Brexit?
I was flashed in 2021 by a speed camera in Freiburg while overtaking other traffic. It was either yet another one of the glorious make benefit of the withdrawal agreement, or the belt n braces black and silver classic Italian sized number plate, but I never heard anything.
In 2018 I received a polite letter from the highways authority of Nordhausen addressed to the, "Fuhrer (of the pkw)" and a decent photo of me and my car in action (with standard reflective plates) for the cost of 10euros, which I thought was very reasonable (less than 10kph over) price for such a souvenir.

Mumsn3t

189 posts

47 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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I have honestly had about a dozen over the past decade. All gone in the bin. I had one French ticket chased up and I wrote back in English saying I'll contest it in court please send the evidence so I can consult a lawyer. Last i heard from them.

Travelled throughout Europe in that time, never had more than a "enjoy your journey sir".

You just spaffed 70 quid up the wall.

Mumsn3t

189 posts

47 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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And just to add, pitlane you're wrong. I set off a toll booth alarm by reversing slightly after the barrier was up. Got pulled by the gendarme who were parked up ahead for 20 minutes or so, thorough doc check. Finished with a "thank you for being patient".

You give the European system too much credit. I'd be surprised if a single toll, speeding or congestion charge gets paid by them here so why should I.

Griffith4ever

6,297 posts

58 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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Yup - I lived in Italy for over 2 years, 10 years back - in a car with no MOT or UK Tax. Lived in Northern Italy, drove everywhere all the time, drove the length of the country to Sicily and back. Never once got stopped by a "road block" or similar. One occasion I interacted with the police I pulled out of a junction with no seatbelt on (in a convertible). Got asked for my documents. Said they were in the UK, "go on then, and wear your seatbelt!".

Sure - you could be unlucky I guess, but for sure, they are not driving round with a database of Low traffic zone infingers from other countries, ready to pounce.

Only fine I paid was for a hire car speeding ticket simply bacause it was under 30 euros and I wanted to use the car hire firm again.

amanu1

48 posts

192 months

Sunday 23rd April 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
I got flashed a couple of times on a European trip last week.

Really annoying as the first one was in Switzerland on the motorway on a bend so it was 60kph. I was in a long line of traffic and following a van so the flash in the face came as a shock. Looked down and an indicated 65kph.

The second was on a French N road that kept varying between 90/100/110 not always with the best signage and at night, no other cars. Reckon I was at most 6 or 7kph over, another flash.

Annoying as I was trying to be careful, setting the cruise whenever I could.

Was under the assumption (presumably wrongly) that they didn't find there way back to the UK post Brexit?
Ignore them all EXCEPT Switzerland. They have very long memories and it'll be very expensive when they catch you.