RE: Aston Martin Works to offer new parts for classics
RE: Aston Martin Works to offer new parts for classics
Friday 28th April 2023

Aston Martin Works to offer new parts for classics

Need a brand new engine or gearbox for your DB5? Well, you're in luck


One happy side effect of Aston Martin’s obsession with continuation models was that bits for some of the marque's most famous and sought-after cars had to be reproduced as new. It was the first time some of these parts had been manufactured for decades. They were all made with painstaking attention to detail, and - as you might expect - built to the original specifications. Which is all well and good, but what if you haven’t got the funds required for a brand-new 'classic' Aston?

Well, for all those poor, unfortunate souls, having to make do with an original DB4, DB5 or DB6, there’s some good news: as a direct result of Aston beavering away on its box-fresh recreations, you will now have access to some brand-new bits for your car. And we're not talking minor items either - we’re talking brand-new engine blocks, cylinder heads and even gearboxes. 

All the new parts come with the ‘appropriate documentation to fully support the provenance of these replacement parts – a vital reassurance when replacing the engine of a DB4 GT, for instance’ so that ‘owners can rest assured that the new components have been checked and approved by the Aston Martin Works team’. It’s not just the early DB models, either, because there are some newly manufactured parts available for V8 models as well.

Paul Spires is the President of Aston Martin Works, and he reckons: “Working with the exceptional engineers both here and at Aston Martin’s Gaydon headquarters, key parts suppliers were tasked with developing these new components. The heritage department at gearbox supplier ZF, for instance, was invaluable in helping to recreate original specification gearboxes – making these parts available for the first time since the early 1970s.” So there we go. Music to the ears of anyone with an AM restoration project in the garage. Sadly there's no catalogue to peruse at the moment - anyone interested needs to get in touch with Aston Martin Works direct. 


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S600BSB

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8,480 posts

136 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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Fabulous.

williamp

20,435 posts

303 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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They could call it "a car for life"...

...then change their minds a few years later and sell everything off.

Ive still got a box of spares from the last sale somewhere

K7hyd

26 posts

57 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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Nice but odd may be to see the german script on the crank case?

Cold

16,727 posts

120 months

Friday 28th April 2023
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I expect they're quite cheap parts to buy, too.

GreatScott2016

2,549 posts

118 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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S600BSB said:
Fabulous.
+1

devnull

3,869 posts

187 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Thank the lord, EuroCarParts have been saying “on back order” for the last 50 years!

SilverSeraph

29 posts

64 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Everything from Aston Martin Works is exceedingly expensive. No one will find anything cheap there.

You will find the 'German Badge' is on the Gearbox not the engine block. Let's hope ZF have done some improvements on the replacement gearboxes Aston Martin will be supplying now that are are not the same agricultural pieces of junk they used to supply before, which had such terrible constant mesh noise it sounded like a cement mixer full of bricks revolving in the transmission tunnel, when the engine was on idle. I had five Astons with this box in over the years, which were always a total embarrassment when you stopped at the lights with someone in the car that did not know Astons, that always made them say, 'What's that noise'. Should have been an embarrassment to Aston Martin as well but they decided not to take ZF to task over it, which is not really surprising as Aston Martin, along with every other car manufacturer has only really one real aim in their business, which is selling new cars.

ducnick

2,277 posts

273 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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I was under the impression that the reason all Astons of this period were called DBxx was because the DB stood for David Brown, the name of the company that owned Aston Martin at the time. David Brown’s main business was making gearboxes and industrial gears. Hence all Astons of the period used gear boxes made by David Brown, not ZF who would have been a competitor. If I needed a new box for a DB4 I would call David Brown who are still going… not ZF.
Presumably all of these heritage parts are outsourced to other companies for manufacture and sold under the Aston brand.

williamp

20,435 posts

303 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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ducnick said:
I was under the impression that the reason all Astons of this period were called DBxx was because the DB stood for David Brown, the name of the company that owned Aston Martin at the time. David Brown’s main business was making gearboxes and industrial gears. Hence all Astons of the period used gear boxes made by David Brown, not ZF who would have been a competitor. If I needed a new box for a DB4 I would call David Brown who are still going… not ZF.
Presumably all of these heritage parts are outsourced to other companies for manufacture and sold under the Aston brand.
The DB4 used DB gearbox but it wasnt considered very good, so from the DB5 onwards they used a ZF manual, or borg warner/chrysler auto gearboxs. This continued until the end of the NP V8 range in 2000.


bobthemonkey

4,209 posts

246 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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williamp said:
The DB4 used DB gearbox but it wasnt considered very good, so from the DB5 onwards they used a ZF manual, or borg warner/chrysler auto gearboxs. This continued until the end of the NP V8 range in 2000.
DB were much more interested in larger applications, so as well as tractors, their gearboxes went into frigates, tanks and HMS Ark Royal, where they installed the largest naval gearbox in the world, taking power from 4x Rolls Royce Olympus engines - the same found on Concorde or a Vulcan bomber.

aeropilot

40,799 posts

257 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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SilverSeraph said:
Everything from Aston Martin Works is exceedingly expensive. No one will find anything cheap there.

You will find the 'German Badge' is on the Gearbox not the engine block. Let's hope ZF have done some improvements on the replacement gearboxes Aston Martin will be supplying now that are are not the same agricultural pieces of junk they used to supply before, which had such terrible constant mesh noise it sounded like a cement mixer full of bricks revolving in the transmission tunnel, when the engine was on idle. I had five Astons with this box in over the years, which were always a total embarrassment when you stopped at the lights with someone in the car that did not know Astons, that always made them say, 'What's that noise'. Should have been an embarrassment to Aston Martin as well but they decided not to take ZF to task over it, which is not really surprising as Aston Martin, along with every other car manufacturer has only really one real aim in their business, which is selling new cars.
That was a ZF trait though.....no different to the ZF in my Sunbeam-Lotus... laugh
Didn't they originate from a lorry gearbox IIRC?

LotusOmega375D

9,390 posts

183 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Hmm, if you were in the fortunate position to be looking to buy a DB4 GT, would you be happy with an engine made in 2023? Would AM fraudulently stamp the new block with the original 1960s engine number? I hope not. In which case you’ve devalued your DB4 GT and rendered it into a bitsa.

Chris32345

2,141 posts

92 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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K7hyd said:
Nice but odd may be to see the german script on the crank case?
Is that not part of a zf auto gearbox?

aeropilot

40,799 posts

257 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Chris32345 said:
K7hyd said:
Nice but odd may be to see the german script on the crank case?
Is that not part of a zf auto gearbox?
Auto gearboxes don't use SAE 90 wink

williamp

20,435 posts

303 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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LotusOmega375D said:
Hmm, if you were in the fortunate position to be looking to buy a DB4 GT, would you be happy with an engine made in 2023? Would AM fraudulently stamp the new block with the original 1960s engine number? I hope not. In which case you’ve devalued your DB4 GT and rendered it into a bitsa.
Why not? Most of the racing DB 2/4 have got Lagonda engines. Its why so many Lagonda 2.6/ 3 litre have jaguat engines fitted.

And as there are no new old stock blocks available, the only option is a new block from the factory.

Not that anyone would file off the engine number and stamp an old number in. That would never happen... paperbag

LotusOmega375D

9,390 posts

183 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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williamp said:
Why not? Most of the racing DB 2/4 have got Lagonda engines. Its why so many Lagonda 2.6/ 3 litre have jaguat engines fitted.

And as there are no new old stock blocks available, the only option is a new block from the factory.

Not that anyone would file off the engine number and stamp an old number in. That would never happen... paperbag
If it’s all transparent and the vendor advertises the fact and is happy to accept significantly less money than an equivalent matching numbers car is worth, then that’s OK….

tr3a

626 posts

257 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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aeropilot said:
Chris32345 said:
K7hyd said:
Nice but odd may be to see the german script on the crank case?
Is that not part of a zf auto gearbox?
Auto gearboxes don't use SAE 90 wink
Neither do engines.

1950's manual gearboxes and diffs used SAE 90.

aeropilot

40,799 posts

257 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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tr3a said:
aeropilot said:
Chris32345 said:
K7hyd said:
Nice but odd may be to see the german script on the crank case?
Is that not part of a zf auto gearbox?
Auto gearboxes don't use SAE 90 wink
Neither do engines.
confused

AmyRichardson

1,990 posts

72 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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LotusOmega375D said:
If it’s all transparent and the vendor advertises the fact and is happy to accept significantly less money than an equivalent matching numbers car is worth, then that’s OK….
You don't buy a DB5 without running all those checks, but the truth of the matter is that every classic (save for the real garage queens) becomes Theseus' ship at some point.

You could, if you were racing &/or a lot of miles, run the new components and set the old aside for resale with the car.

Regardless I'm not sure what AM's angle is here. Micro-industry has been providing new-cast components (how else do these nut-&-bolt replicas get built?) forever; do AM just buy up a stock, run some QA and stamp their name onto the goods and pass them on at a profit?

hsvgtsuk

16 posts

277 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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AmyRichardson said:
Regardless I'm not sure what AM's angle is here. Micro-industry has been providing new-cast components (how else do these nut-&-bolt replicas get built?) forever; do AM just buy up a stock, run some QA and stamp their name onto the goods and pass them on at a profit?
Profit? That's the bit I am struggling with?

To have bought all of these items and have them in stock will mean quite a bit of space taken up in their spares department. The turnover time for these components will be measured in decades, rather than years and anyone that does inventory control will appreciate that this costs.

I know these components won't be cheap and their pricing will reflect any "storage time" but I can't help but think this is a loss making endeavour for them.

Best leave the micro industry economics to the micro industry and Aston trying to make a profit trying to being a car company.......