Annual Investment Allowance
Annual Investment Allowance
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Fugawi

Original Poster:

64 posts

114 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Hoping theres and accountant on here or someone who knows.

Since the recent end of the 130% super deduction I know rules have changed.

My question is, with the new AIA, does plant and machinery have to be new to receive the 100% benefit? Looking to buy a £200k item of plant and I'm told the benefit is only 18% due to being used? Another forum several posters say thats wrong??

Eric Mc

124,994 posts

289 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Unless there were changes in the most recent Budgets (all 5 of them), the AIA was not restricted to brand new assets.

Fugawi

Original Poster:

64 posts

114 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Yes, I believe there were changes hence just trying to clarify.

Seventy-Eight

383 posts

204 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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AIA can be claimed on second hand assets.

Fugawi

Original Poster:

64 posts

114 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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People on another forum are saying this too. My accountant said not but due to the number of people saying the opposite I'm questioning him.
A quick google seems to agree with him.

TNJ

434 posts

186 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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You are confusing two different allowances.

The new allowance you referred to is for spend on new plant and machinery and is an uncapped 100% revenue deduction. It excludes certain expenditure such as cars, special rate pool items (50% only for them), etc.

The Annual Investment Allowance is a different allowance - giving a 100% deduction on up to £1m of expenditure and can be used against special rate pool items and second hand additions.

Seventy-Eight

383 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Yep TNJ is right.

The new first year allowance ('full expensing') is a replacement for the super-deduction, but the Annual Investment Allowance hasn't gone away. The new FYA is unlimited whereas AIA has a limit of £1m. There are a few other minor differences - such as second-hand assets being ineligible for full expensing.

Fugawi

Original Poster:

64 posts

114 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Thanks for the replies. I took my accountant to task on this today and he admitted he had made a mistake and misled me. He has now clarified the situation which correlates with above replies.
You know when you read stuff on the internet, you can't always take it as gospel and you also expect when you're paying a professional for advice they tell you the correct info.
Thanks for this, I'm now pressing ahead with purchase of used plant and machinery which should offset about £50k of tax, so worth starting this thread.

Thanks Pistonheads!