Wokeflix?
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Giantt

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835 posts

58 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Enola Holmes 2,Queen Charlotte,plenty of others,seems as usual.its impossible to go from one end of the spectrum,under representative of population to the idea that different colours,gender or lack of it must be included everywhere regardless of the actuality?

DeejRC

8,604 posts

104 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Que?
I’m guessing you haven’t watched EN2. It’s ok, there is no need to answer smile

As for the Bridgerton thing…well, yer 2 seasons too late there old boy…

macp

4,692 posts

205 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Giantt said:
Enola Holmes 2,Queen Charlotte,plenty of others,seems as usual.its impossible to go from one end of the spectrum,under representative of population to the idea that different colours,gender or lack of it must be included everywhere regardless of the actuality?
Seen it and get your meaning. But I feel more and more that im just getting old. Now I just watch and enjoy. Trying to remember that whether or not the actors may have been given an advantage because of there ethnicity. They auditioned for their parts like everyone else.

But this is just my opinion. And there is a very real danger that im just talking ballcocks.

Alex Z

1,952 posts

98 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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I don’t know whether it’s just my imagination, but is there a correlation between rants about “woke”, and terrible spelling and grammar?

To the OP, can you explain what you mean by “woke”?

FourWheelDrift

91,698 posts

306 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Netflix's Cleopatra, the Egyptian's aren't happy - https://www.nme.com/news/film/egyptian-lawyer-sues...

Gweeds

7,954 posts

74 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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On the sauce a bit early OP, or is the Daily Mail
site down?

anonymoususer

7,816 posts

70 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Gweeds said:
On the sauce a bit early OP, or is the Daily Mail
site down?
Posting thiny veiled insults and repetitive references to the Daily Mail gets tiresome. You are worthy of much better stuff.
The OP clearly thinks there is an agenda to promote inclusiveness and he is not alone. It's a plot and I for one can see both the merits and downsides of this sort of thing
I myself was surprised to see that Idris Elba was in Star Trek he is in pretty much anything. I feel they could have used a different black actor.
Then there is the recent alterations to Father Brown. In fact I'm surprised it's still called Father Brown. The very name is a disgrace.

In Father B***n (I refuse to write the name again) he had a woman housekeeper (well she was dressed as a woman and seemed happy to be called "she" and "her") They could of course identified as whatever they wished. Anyway that character was called MRS. MCCARTHY and she made prize winning scones.
She has now left and has been replaced by a black woman from the local girls borstal place. She looks like they were in Dexys backing band around the time of "Eileen". She is also a bit thick.
On the face of it it's a plot to integrate black characters where there were non. But if you open your mind as I have it's a wonderful opportunity to enable Father B***n to become familiar with black culture. In the 50s

dundarach

5,936 posts

250 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Quite enjoyed Enola Holmes 2

Didn't enjoy James Bond's last one

Yes both were more inclusive than typical films in the same theme, however one was a total sell out stshow, with a wker as a main star with too much creative control who wanted to st all over the franchise for everyone else.

The other was Enola Holmes 2


southendpier

6,003 posts

251 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Netflix's Cleopatra, the Egyptian's aren't happy - https://www.nme.com/news/film/egyptian-lawyer-sues...
IMDB User rating 1.1/10


DodgyGeezer

46,137 posts

212 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Netflix's Cleopatra, the Egyptian's aren't happy - https://www.nme.com/news/film/egyptian-lawyer-sues...
Ahhh that's because, according to the fkwits promoting it, the Egyptians are (wait for it, wait for it) both racist and ignorant of their history/culture... <sigh>

Edited by DodgyGeezer on Tuesday 16th May 10:20

gt_12345

1,873 posts

57 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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We have to play-along and live in the pretend world of all these casting directors and marketing people.

shirt

24,973 posts

223 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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Lol at queen charlotte, because a black actor is probably on of the least flimsy strings of reality that make up bridgerton.

bitchstewie

63,538 posts

232 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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Ah the monthly there's too many black and brown people on the telly thread.

Christ.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

57 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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bhstewie said:
Ah the monthly there's too many black and brown people on the telly thread.

Christ.
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....

Randy Winkman

20,455 posts

211 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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gt_12345 said:
bhstewie said:
Ah the monthly there's too many black and brown people on the telly thread.

Christ.
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....
I think that some people like the OP, miss the point of how TV and advertising work. It's not supposed to be real life.

bitchstewie

63,538 posts

232 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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gt_12345 said:
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....
They're literally fictional TV shows.

gt_12345

1,873 posts

57 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
gt_12345 said:
bhstewie said:
Ah the monthly there's too many black and brown people on the telly thread.

Christ.
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....
I think that some people like the OP, miss the point of how TV and advertising work. It's not supposed to be real life.
It's a political agenda and you know it.

You wouldn't want my politics forced on you during your TV programmes, so I shouldn't have to tolerate your political viewpoint during my TV shows.

Edited by gt_12345 on Tuesday 16th May 09:58

Randy Winkman

20,455 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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gt_12345 said:
Randy Winkman said:
gt_12345 said:
bhstewie said:
Ah the monthly there's too many black and brown people on the telly thread.

Christ.
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....
I think that some people like the OP, miss the point of how TV and advertising work. It's not supposed to be real life.
It's a political agenda and you know it.

You wouldn't want my politics forced on you during your TV programmes, so I shouldn't have to tolerate your political viewpoint during my TV shows.

Edited by gt_12345 on Tuesday 16th May 09:58
They aren't your or my shows and we don't have to watch them - they are aimed at a wide audience and are made to fit with the times.

iphonedyou

10,118 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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gt_12345 said:
It's a political agenda and you know it.

You wouldn't want my politics forced on you during your TV programmes, so I shouldn't have to tolerate your political viewpoint during my TV shows.

Edited by gt_12345 on Tuesday 16th May 09:58
So... don't watch those shows.

I'd never want a life where 'there are too many black people on TV' is a material concern, but I'll admit I'm envious of those with the time and inclination to give it headroom.

Edited by iphonedyou on Tuesday 16th May 12:58

DodgyGeezer

46,137 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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bhstewie said:
gt_12345 said:
Oh look, can't provide a proper response as usual. Funny, your ideological mate Gweeds did the same thing above.

It's almost like you both sub-consciously think the OP is correct.

Go on, have a try....
They're literally fictional TV shows.
In at least 1 case they're literally not. Cleopatra is being pushed as a true story. The recent Anne Boleyn had a black Anne, ridiculous nonsense.

Black elves and dwarves in LoTR? Really, who cares - imo it's logical (within the framework of a fantasy movie) to have BAME peoples. Little Mermaid BAME? Who cares, I mean really does it matter? Within broad parameters it doesn't - however what stands out for me is:
- where is the Asian, East Asian representation?
- is this just white virtue-signalling whilst insidiously telling us that black/Asian legends/stories can't stand on their own merits (interestingly east Asian tales seem to be better represented as do mesoAmerican )
- whilsti can see the sense/logic/need for greater BAME representation in advertising (increase your 'audience' for little/no effort) it is noticeable that it's predominantly black representation rather than Indian/Pakistani/East Asian...