Is he legally authorised?
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silverfoxcc

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8,102 posts

168 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Watching the players leaving Spurs yesterday, and there is a guy with a tabard with the legend

Accredited Traffic Management (or similar) on the back. no other script except the obligatory lanyard and ID

The junction with Park Lane ( where tthe players drive to leave) is traffic light controlled with Tottenham High Rd

This gut, armed with a whistle, coordinated the stopping of traffic along the high Rd by signalling his mates and he them waves the players ,or any other cars leaving the ground through

The problem is he does this at random times and when the lights in Park Lane are red

Is he AUTHORISED under the RTA and highway code to signal cars past a red light ,and could he be liable should someone, legally going through a green, and ignoring another guy just dressed in a yellow stewards coat, T Bones Harry Kane .

Whilst those authorised can direct traffic Police officers/HA officers in uniform, can a guy in a tabard showing he is acredited have the same level of authority, and what actions/offences ,if any will a driver be liable for should he ignore any instructions from him eg Lights are red, whistle man tells him to go, driver stays put. and waits for green


Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 7th May 18:58


Edited by silverfoxcc on Sunday 7th May 18:58

Rough101

2,961 posts

98 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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He may well be, you don’t know what traffic management plan is in place, same sort of thing as skips and cranes with banksmen manoeuvring into building sites and roadworks traffic management.

Starfighter

5,305 posts

201 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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A banksman on sit entrance is only going to be stopping traffic not instructing another road user to pass a light on red.

Rough101

2,961 posts

98 months

Monday 8th May 2023
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Starfighter said:
A banksman on sit entrance is only going to be stopping traffic not instructing another road user to pass a light on red.
Depends what’s in the traffic management plan, common with crane lifts.

If you get a NIP, in such circumstances, make it plain that you understood the person to be a police officer.

It’s a bit of a mess the whole CSAS and PATO thing, most Police services don’t get involved in traffic management any more.

martinbiz

3,637 posts

168 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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They do the same thing on the East side of the stadium at the lights over the railway bridge by Tesco at the junction with Meridian Way. Often wondered as I’ve been waved through on red what they have in place and how they would cope if there were cameras there