Covenant on building a shed
Covenant on building a shed
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NorthDevon66

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68 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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I bought a small plot of land some years ago and there is a covenant restricting what can be built on it. The document states it is permissible to build a "small" shed (or summerhouse) with a height of 2.4m. The maximum length and width (or area) of the shed are not specified. Assuming I want a large shed, what size could I reasonably get away with?

Grumps.

16,923 posts

58 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Anything that isn’t over 2.4m I guess.

springfan62

910 posts

98 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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NorthDevon66 said:
I bought a small plot of land some years ago and there is a covenant restricting what can be built on it. The document states it is permissible to build a "small" shed (or summerhouse) with a height of 2.4m. The maximum length and width (or area) of the shed are not specified. Assuming I want a large shed, what size could I reasonably get away with?
Who benefits from the covenant and are they still about to care?


NorthDevon66

Original Poster:

68 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Yes, the land is very close to their property (separated by a footpath) and they will not want a large structure going up if they can avoid it. Even though they most likely won't be able to see it from their own property (due to hedges, lie of the land, etc).

qwerty360

277 posts

67 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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I expect limit will be the point at which you need planning consent (assuming UK).


Quick google suggests (for england) the size limit is 15m sq floor area.


Though you may still need planning as permissive development sheds are only allowed in rear gardens (regular complaint re bicycle sheds; you can't put a small bike shed in, yet you can tarmac over half the garden and park a big, non-roadworthy transit permenantly to put the bikes in...)

NorthDevon66

Original Poster:

68 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Grumps. said:
Anything that isn’t over 2.4m I guess.
Yeah, but is there some legal constraint on what is a reasonable footprint in this case, or does that fall under general planning guidelines (which admittedly I haven't yet looked into).

solo2

987 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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As said 2.4m in height but is there anything other than cost stopping you from building something the size you want under ground level with just the lower above ground structure?

NorthDevon66

Original Poster:

68 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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qwerty360 said:
I expect limit will be the point at which you need planning consent (assuming UK).


Quick google suggests (for england) the size limit is 15m sq floor area.


Though you may still need planning as permissive development sheds are only allowed in rear gardens (regular complaint re bicycle sheds; you can't put a small bike shed in, yet you can tarmac over half the garden and park a big, non-roadworthy transit permenantly to put the bikes in...)

Yes, this makes sense. I need to look into planning consent.


andya7

256 posts

238 months

Thursday 11th May 2023
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Be careful on confusing ‘permitted development’ rights.

You mention a ‘plot of land’, therefore if it isn’t associated with a dwelling house, then the PD rights referred to above don’t exist.

You would need to confirm the current use class of the land/plot, then work out the next step. There are many different aspects to the GPDO (permitted development) covering different use classes, however a ‘plot’ with no ‘use’ won’t have any.

(above is simplified)

So, you are likely to require a specific permission for any ‘building’, (including ‘engineering operations’) which will lead into other areas of planning policy, etc.

mr rusty

216 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Covenants are often not well written and may not be enforceable. "The document states it is permissible to build a "small" shed (or summerhouse) with a height of 2.4m"

I would say you can build whatever you want area-wise. "small" is not defined so is meaningless - small compared to what? an aircraft hanger? No-one in their right mind would start paying lawyers to try and enforce that. Also the wording of the covenant is very important - were you the original purchaser of the land? or was there someone in between you and the original covenant? Does the covenant flow down through heirs and successors?

Important to realise that the only person that can enforce a covenant is the original beneficiary - not neighbours or any other busy-body. Also, enforcing means going legal with all the cost/risk involved.

If in doubt, get a little bit of legal opinion from a specialist solicitor.

NorthDevon66

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68 posts

104 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Plot of land is not associated with a house - it's a standalone plot. Currently got some fruit trees on it (which I won't remove) but not used for anything at moment. I was thinking of putting in a basic cabin for tourists (area is scenic and popular). Seems to me that planning permission for tourist related structures is much easier to get than it used to be. The wording of the covenant is helpfully vague and implies that the original sellers of the plot won't be able to object to a structure being built. It seems then that the question is whether the planning authorities will allow it. I will find out.

TonyF1

222 posts

74 months

Sunday 14th May 2023
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Sounds like a holiday let and not a shed you are thinking about. You’ll need planning for change of use of the land. Apply for outline PP and you’ll know neighbours thoughts on the subject.

Escort3500

13,156 posts

167 months

Sunday 14th May 2023
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TonyF1 said:
Sounds like a holiday let and not a shed you are thinking about. You’ll need planning for change of use of the land. Apply for outline PP and you’ll know neighbours thoughts on the subject.
You can’t get pp for change of use; it’s a full permission.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 14th May 2023
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Can you not just place a 'glamping' thingy on the land?

It will have wheels, so you should be able to claim it is a 'mobile structure?'

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More of an issue will be getting services in, electric, water and drainage.......