Commuting by train - TransPennine express
Commuting by train - TransPennine express
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Hugo Stiglitz

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40,788 posts

235 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Any personal experiences? We are looking to relocate and my wife would have to use it.... following the Government plans hopefully all will change...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/11/nobo...


Mods can you not move this topic into a siding. This isn't a train spotting/transport loving topic.

TGCOTF-dewey

7,397 posts

79 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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I found it easier to drive TBH. Only tried it a couple of times, but because it stops everywhere, it didn't work for me. I was York to Liverpool though, which didn't help.

East / West commutes in the north are poor whichever mode of transport you use inside of normal commuter hours TBH.

Rick101

7,152 posts

174 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Ha, all change. You'll be lucky!

It's the same staff, same management having the same issues. Any change won't be an overnight process.

I do think there has been a real drive over the last few months to improve things. Still lots of cancellations, way more than there should be, but definitly a marked improvement from where they once were.

Hopefully in time they'll be back to where they should be.

Catastrophic Poo

6,018 posts

210 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Mods can you not move this topic into a siding. This isn't a train spotting/transport loving topic.
Good idea, you’ll be able to gauge interest from more people.

FredericRobinson

4,787 posts

256 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Which part would she have to use?
If it’s a route not also covered by other companies I wouldn’t consider it, a mess this bad is going to take a very long time to fix, even assuming the government h as the will and the ability to do so.

Crumpet

5,068 posts

204 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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I have to take the TPE from Yorkshire across to Manchester airport once a month. Just once there and back.

It used to be ok pre-covid; not enough carriages and a miserable experience in economy but they were reliable enough to get to the airport on time if you always allowed for your train being cancelled and taking the next one. First class was decent and they had those nice filter coffees, now it’s just instant crap.

Post covid it is completely and utterly unusable. I’ve now missed three flights because of those s and have been left stuck at the airport unable to get home because they’ve cancelled the return service. I just save myself the hassle now and either take a taxi or simply use Heathrow instead. I feel sorry for anyone who has to use the service every day. Here’s an example of the last time I tried to use it….


RicksAlfas

14,329 posts

268 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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The trains are crap but the Pennines are good.

Vasco

18,009 posts

129 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Any personal experiences? We are looking to relocate and my wife would have to use it.... following the Government plans hopefully all will change...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/11/nobo...


Mods can you not move this topic into a siding. This isn't a train spotting/transport loving topic.
TPE has been appalling for ages. It will take at least 1-2 years to get back to where it should be - there's simply too few qualified staff, and training takes an age.

woodypup59

683 posts

176 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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My son lives in Marsden and works in Manchester.

He works from home 2 days a week.

He finds the trains OK-ish for the 9 to 5 commute, but its the evenings when the service falls apart.

If he wants to stay in Manc into the evening, its best to drive in (early) so he knows he can get home.

48k

16,520 posts

172 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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TGCOTF-dewey said:
East / West commutes in the north are poor whichever mode of transport you use inside of normal commuter hours TBH.
East/West commutes in the whole country are poor, not just in the North.

Crumpet

5,068 posts

204 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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And another missed flight…..s!


Hugo Stiglitz

Original Poster:

40,788 posts

235 months

Monday 15th May 2023
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woodypup59 said:
My son lives in Marsden and works in Manchester.

He works from home 2 days a week.

He finds the trains OK-ish for the 9 to 5 commute, but its the evenings when the service falls apart.

If he wants to stay in Manc into the evening, its best to drive in (early) so he knows he can get home.
She works from home Fridays so that'll help (and also looking at Marsden).


Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Monday 15th May 16:48

woodypup59

683 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Marsden is a lovely little town, with a vibrant life pulse.

Pretty much self contained with about 5 pubs, many proper shop, a small Co-op, several clubs and the Mechanics.

A big Aldi in the next village (Slawit), or Morrisons in Meltham.

They have their own Jazz festival in the Autumn, but beware, they are a bunch of heathens as they celebrate all the old Pagan festivals !

Hugo Stiglitz

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40,788 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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I had an ex from there. I remember thinking back then I was bringing a new out of town boyfriend into the area....

I only lived down the road in Edgerton

laugh

K87

4,175 posts

123 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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woodypup59 said:
Marsden is a lovely little town, with a vibrant life pulse.

Pretty much self contained with about 5 pubs, many proper shop, a small Co-op, several clubs and the Mechanics.

A big Aldi in the next village (Slawit), or Morrisons in Meltham.

They have their own Jazz festival in the Autumn, but beware, they are a bunch of heathens as they celebrate all the old Pagan festivals !
A great coffee and bakery place in Slawit, down by the canal, there is also Dark Roast coffee who roast the best coffee.

I have friends who come up from London in their BMW, have the car serviced and stay in a B and B, go shopping in Manchester and have a great time. Labour rates on the servicing are half what they pay in London.

Backtobasics2

172 posts

45 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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This service is really poor and rammed at commuter times. First class is a bit better …..when it runs.

mikeiow

7,908 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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K87 said:
woodypup59 said:
Marsden is a lovely little town, with a vibrant life pulse.

Pretty much self contained with about 5 pubs, many proper shop, a small Co-op, several clubs and the Mechanics.

A big Aldi in the next village (Slawit), or Morrisons in Meltham.

They have their own Jazz festival in the Autumn, but beware, they are a bunch of heathens as they celebrate all the old Pagan festivals !
A great coffee and bakery place in Slawit, down by the canal, there is also Dark Roast coffee who roast the best coffee.

I have friends who come up from London in their BMW, have the car serviced and stay in a B and B, go shopping in Manchester and have a great time. Labour rates on the servicing are half what they pay in London.
We’ve started a few Gold DofE expeditions from there….couple of decent cafes there, & a pal who lives there & loves it!
Also….Holme Valley Mountain Rescue base there…..well, we only had to use them once eek nice bunch of folk, I raised £4K for them doing my LEJoG later thumbup

On the TPE trains….maybe they will improve, but my daughter had received several full refunds for issues….one of which was when she was dumped in Manchester with no way to get to Sheffield. They had to run a taxi-minibus for a bunch of people….home by 2am: bloody awful!
We were not surprised to hear they were being taken over. I do wonder what changes that will bring….the suspicious part of me expects the staff to broadly remain the same and no heads to roll….

Radec

5,453 posts

71 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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K87 said:
woodypup59 said:
Marsden is a lovely little town, with a vibrant life pulse.

Pretty much self contained with about 5 pubs, many proper shop, a small Co-op, several clubs and the Mechanics.

A big Aldi in the next village (Slawit), or Morrisons in Meltham.

They have their own Jazz festival in the Autumn, but beware, they are a bunch of heathens as they celebrate all the old Pagan festivals !
A great coffee and bakery place in Slawit, down by the canal, there is also Dark Roast coffee who roast the best coffee.

I have friends who come up from London in their BMW, have the car serviced and stay in a B and B, go shopping in Manchester and have a great time. Labour rates on the servicing are half what they pay in London.
Many years ago i used to go to Marsden with my BMW for any sort of work to a guy called Peter, think he was Dutch.
Great guy and very good at his job, I'm not sure if he's still about but Marsden and it's surrounding areas was quite nice as well.

stogbandard

427 posts

74 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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I remember a time when I used the oxymoron that is the Trans Pennine Express as far back as the late 1980s to travel daily to college in York. Back then it was a proper ancient relic of a train with Miss Marple style carriages adorned with hideously varnished plywood panels often adorned with badly carved initials of crap football teams and those seats with ears that had been tainted with a million farts.

Then in the early 90s the 8 carriage stock was replaced with new four carriage trains. Engines in each carriage replaced the single locomotive unit, which meant it was very noisy. When setting off the engines would hit full revs but without any according appreciable sensation of acceleration. When anyone describes how a car with a CVT transmission works, this must be what it’s like, or at least this is how I imagine it. A small blessing is that least it had air con, which was great when it was occasionally controlled properly, rather than being set to 2 million degrees in a heatwave or on chiller blast freezer mode in mid winter.

The Trans Pennine [not very] Express over the years successfully cemented my dislike of rail travel. I’ll only travel by rail as a mode of last resort, and even on the occasions I use it, for some reason nothing goes right. Hence, If you see me getting on the same train that you’re catching, please FFS, get the next one because it will be delayed.

MitchT

17,089 posts

233 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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stogbandard said:
Then in the early 90s the 8 carriage stock was replaced with new four carriage trains. Engines in each carriage replaced the single locomotive unit, which meant it was very noisy.
See also, the transition from HSTs to Voyagers since 2001.