Milwaukee M12IR-201B vs Kielder KWT-010-12

[technicalfoamboy]

Hi,

Any thoughts on which impact rachet is the best please?

https://uk.milwaukeetool.eu/en-gb/m12-sub-compact-...

or

https://www.kielder.co/products/kwt-010-type18-18v...

I'm personally leaning towards the Keilder but welcome real life reviews/thoughts.

Thanks

[gazza285]

I’ve loads of Milwaukee stuff that gets abused in my job, when things do go wrong I can get spares quickly and cheap, so I would not hesitate to recommend them.

Never heard of Kielder, other than the forest, so cannot comment on their use in the real world. Might be alright though…

[kris450]

I've had that exact Milwaukee ratchet for a couple of years now. Worked faultlessly and never let me down. Can't comment on the other brand as never heard of them to be honest.

Only thing I will say is neither are actually 'impact' ratchets. They are just normal electric ratchets. I know Milwaukee do an actual impact version but its quite a bit more expensive. Worth noting if you are technically looking for something with the 'impacting' ability.

[donkmeister]

gazza285 said:

Never heard of Kielder, other than the forest, so cannot comment on their use in the real world. Might be alright though…

I know Bad Obsession use their impacts (and I think other stuff too) on Project Binky... So presumably works well as they are actually a proper motorsports outfit in their dayjob.

OP, for a home gamer like us you are unlikely to wear out a named brand impact. So the best thing to do is work out what other tools you are likely to need/want in the future and see who makes them; once you have bought in to one manufacturer ecosystem it can be a bit galling to find they don't do that particular tool you need.

I'd also suggest that seeing who your local suppliers stock is handy too - I love Hikoki/Hitachi but if I decide I need to buy a particular tool on a Saturday afternoon I'm SOOL as the only supplies round here are pro outfits that close at 12 on Saturdays, and an online order won't come until Tuesday. Whereas if I'd bought Makita I could pop into Screwfix.

[donkmeister]

Also isn't the M12 product line 12V? Not sure that would keep up with the Kielder 18V once you are using it in anger, and you would have a 12V battery that won't be any use with more powerful tools if you are thinking about getting more Milwaukee stuff later.

[technicalfoamboy]

donkmeister said:

Also isn't the M12 product line 12V? Not sure that would keep up with the Kielder 18V once you are using it in anger, and you would have a 12V battery that won't be any use with more powerful tools if you are thinking about getting more Milwaukee stuff later.

Thanks to all you comments, it's good to get a bunch of perspectives.

Thanks donkmeister for pointing out the 12v battery observation for the Milwaukee wrench. How much does that matter?

Edited by technicalfoamboy on Saturday 20th May 12:58

[donkmeister]

technicalfoamboy said:

Thanks donkmeister for pointing out the 12v battery observation for the Milwaukee wrench. How much does that matter?

Edited by technicalfoamboy on Saturday 20th May 12:58

One good thing about cordless power tools is that the manufacturers haven't yet started building the battery as an integral part of the tool, so once you have bought your first tool you will already own a battery (an expensive battery!) and charger... So, next time you need a new tool you only need to buy the body of the tool (as you already own the power source).

Pretty much any tool you are likely to need will be available in 18V, but only small low power tools are available in 12V from what I've seen. So, if you buy an M12 Milwaukee then you are losing the benefit of having an 18V power source that you can use when you decide you need e.g. a cordless polisher, or a nailgun.

[gazza285]

donkmeister said:

technicalfoamboy said:

Thanks donkmeister for pointing out the 12v battery observation for the Milwaukee wrench. How much does that matter?

Edited by technicalfoamboy on Saturday 20th May 12:58

One good thing about cordless power tools is that the manufacturers haven't yet started building the battery as an integral part of the tool, so once you have bought your first tool you will already own a battery (an expensive battery!) and charger... So, next time you need a new tool you only need to buy the body of the tool (as you already own the power source).

Pretty much any tool you are likely to need will be available in 18V, but only small low power tools are available in 12V from what I've seen. So, if you buy an M12 Milwaukee then you are losing the benefit of having an 18V power source that you can use when you decide you need e.g. a cordless polisher, or a nailgun.

Depends on what you want from the tool, Milwaukee do have 12v nail guns and polishers, obviously the battery isn’t going to last all day, so may not be great in an industrial setting, but more than adequate for a hobbyist.

I use mainly 18v Milwaukee stuff, but I do have some 12v stuff, such as a one handed recip saw, these are great when an 18v one would be hard to use due to size and weight. Horses for courses and all that.