Howard Cox to stand for mayor as motorists' champion
Howard Cox to stand for mayor as motorists' champion
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simonrockman

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7,069 posts

277 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Fair Fuel's Howard Cox is standing as mayor. While I think we need a pro-car candidate I can't get behind him. There is a tinge of climate change denial in what he says and I'm deeply uncomfortable with that. But what I can't handle is that he's standing for Reform UK (nee Brexit Party).

We need someone to counter Khan's war on cars, and if Cox was standing as an independent I'd look to supporting Cox, but as it is he just comes over as being as much of a nutter as the clockwork cyclists on twitter.

Vanden Saab

17,263 posts

96 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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simonrockman said:
Fair Fuel's Howard Cox is standing as mayor. While I think we need a pro-car candidate I can't get behind him. There is a tinge of climate change denial in what he says and I'm deeply uncomfortable with that. But what I can't handle is that he's standing for Reform UK (nee Brexit Party).

We need someone to counter Khan's war on cars, and if Cox was standing as an independent I'd look to supporting Cox, but as it is he just comes over as being as much of a nutter as the clockwork cyclists on twitter.
Would any pro-car person not have a 'tinge of doubt over climate change' as a matter of course seeing as it will be impossible to reach the current climate change targets let alone future ones without getting rid of them altogether. As for Reform. Khan was elected while a certain J Corbyn was leader. Not sure your party is much of an issue as Mayor but the chances of succeeding as an independent are zero.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

58 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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simonrockman said:
Fair Fuel's Howard Cox is standing as mayor. While I think we need a pro-car candidate I can't get behind him. There is a tinge of climate change denial in what he says and I'm deeply uncomfortable with that. But what I can't handle is that he's standing for Reform UK (nee Brexit Party).

We need someone to counter Khan's war on cars, and if Cox was standing as an independent I'd look to supporting Cox, but as it is he just comes over as being as much of a nutter as the clockwork cyclists on twitter.
I’d step away from the BBC , Ch4 and the guardian!!

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

66 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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simonrockman said:
Fair Fuel's Howard Cox is standing as mayor.
Mayor of where, exactly?

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

58 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
Mayor of where, exactly?
London Town !!

z4RRSchris

12,288 posts

201 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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simonrockman said:
We need someone to counter Khan's war on cars, and if Cox was standing as an independent I'd look to supporting Cox, but as it is he just comes over as being as much of a nutter as the clockwork cyclists on twitter.
Khan will win, the tories will never win london again.

There will be more Ulez / Congestion Charging / Road Pricing, LTNS, higher parking fees etc etc etc.

great news. its a city not a car park / motorway

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

66 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Ivan stewart said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Mayor of where, exactly?
London Town !!
Thank you- there's lots of towns with mayors & he didn't specify. smile

Cliftonite

8,669 posts

160 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
Ivan stewart said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Mayor of where, exactly?
London Town !!
Thank you- there's lots of towns with mayors & he didn't specify. smile
'North of Watford' syndrome, innit?

smile

DeejRC

8,625 posts

104 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Am I also the only person who hasn’t got a clue what Fair Fuel is or wtf Howard Cox is?

anonymous-user

76 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Why is it a “war on cars” and not a “campaign for better air quality”?… can’t help but think that it’s just the candidate and party that are the issue here? Surely no one wants a reduction in air quality?

z4RRSchris

12,288 posts

201 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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pablo said:
Why is it a “war on cars” and not a “campaign for better air quality”?… can’t help but think that it’s just the candidate and party that are the issue here? Surely no one wants a reduction in air quality?
I take great joy reading on fb / next door / twitter about the locals up in arms that some planters are blocking their HUMAN RIGHT to drive.

Type R Tom

4,214 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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z4RRSchris said:
pablo said:
Why is it a “war on cars” and not a “campaign for better air quality”?… can’t help but think that it’s just the candidate and party that are the issue here? Surely no one wants a reduction in air quality?
I take great joy reading on fb / next door / twitter about the locals up in arms that some planters are blocking their HUMAN RIGHT to drive.
Driving is a privalige not a right, the sooner more people start to realise that the better. Same as on street parking, millions of sq m of public land given over to the storage of personal property.

And it's not just air quality, we spend 4 billion a year on diabetes, if people just moved a bit more the country would be much healthier. Won't happen until we can make walking and cycling more attractive than driving in city centers.

dai1983

3,153 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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His twitter feed reads how I imagine turboblokes/crankedup,
86/cc3/car crazy dad's and Vanden Shep's to read.

Maybe more Guido links if it was Vanden Shep's.

DaveCWK

2,287 posts

196 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Nobody's perfect. All things considered he sounds like a good option.

bitchstewie

63,677 posts

232 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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So what are we going for?

2% of the vote?

Is there a threshold in the mayoral elections where you lose your deposit?

S600BSB

7,270 posts

128 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Why do people feel they neet to post these things. Irrelevant thread.

fido

18,341 posts

277 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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pablo said:
campaign for better air quality”?
You have to be gullible to think the ULEZ extension is about 'air quality'. The LTN's in my locale do nothing but cause long traffic jams - that can't be good either. The best thing that happened for air quality is when fuel hit £2 a litre - everyone was hypermiling and combining journeys. Not sure that would be a vote winner though ..

Jasandjules

71,901 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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simonrockman said:
. There is a tinge of climate change denial in what he says and I'm deeply uncomfortable with that.
Well then perhaps you ought to do some research. Oh, PS, it was Global Warming before, stick with that please...

Rivenink

4,280 posts

128 months

Monday 22nd May 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Would any pro-car person not have a 'tinge of doubt over climate change' as a matter of course seeing as it will be impossible to reach the current climate change targets let alone future ones without getting rid of them altogether.
Very absolutist.

The world doesn't need to get rid of every single ICE car in order to meet climate change targets. Just most of them.

A champion for ICE car enthusiasts is needed to ensure that regulation and law continues to allow for the enjoyment of ICE cars as electric cars and alternatives take over.