Fing Anti speed numpties
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I know this has been said a million times but the Gov's brainwashing about speed seems to be working.
I overheard a discussion on the train today and it made my head spin and blood boil.
Two middle aged cotton wool wrapped risk terrified moron's were moaning about the speeding near their homes. They seemed to think that the large number of pedestrians hit on these roads meant that all the roads should have a 20 limit. And sleeping policemen placed everywhere. They went on to say how it was strange that there dont seem to be any accidents by the Zebra crossing nearby. I know the road they were talking about and its not a suprise that there are no accidents near the zebra crossing, because traffic stops for it. How many times do you see people crossing busy roads yards away from crossings? Or mothers pushing prams in front of themselves into roads?
What is wrong with taking responsibility for your own actions or teaching your kids how dangerous roads are!!!!!!!!!
>>> Edited by rich1231 on Thursday 24th October 09:39
I overheard a discussion on the train today and it made my head spin and blood boil.
Two middle aged cotton wool wrapped risk terrified moron's were moaning about the speeding near their homes. They seemed to think that the large number of pedestrians hit on these roads meant that all the roads should have a 20 limit. And sleeping policemen placed everywhere. They went on to say how it was strange that there dont seem to be any accidents by the Zebra crossing nearby. I know the road they were talking about and its not a suprise that there are no accidents near the zebra crossing, because traffic stops for it. How many times do you see people crossing busy roads yards away from crossings? Or mothers pushing prams in front of themselves into roads?
What is wrong with taking responsibility for your own actions or teaching your kids how dangerous roads are!!!!!!!!!
>>> Edited by rich1231 on Thursday 24th October 09:39
philipmog said:
and all nice smooth twisty back roads closed on Sundays to Joe Public.... and open to rest of us with the type of car to enjoy the beautiful flowing countryside...
And made one-way - I wouldn't want to be arse-out on a beautiful country road (Mungo - quiet!) only to meet another PHeader doing the same in the opposite direction (Mungo - I said stop sniggering!)
20 mph in town is ridiculous.
We are talking about a maximum figure. There are places where 30 or 40 are fine. Use your eyes, slow when necessary, it's easy. If you can't identify when 30 is too quick due the conditions etc, perhaps you shouldn't be driving at all!!!
10 years ago, people would have laughed at the idea of 20mph limits. Since then everyones getting bloody brainwashed.
STAND YOUR GROUND, BEFORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 MPH LIMITS IN ANOTHER TEN YEARS.
DAZ
(Safety is improved by looking where you're going, not the speedo)
We are talking about a maximum figure. There are places where 30 or 40 are fine. Use your eyes, slow when necessary, it's easy. If you can't identify when 30 is too quick due the conditions etc, perhaps you shouldn't be driving at all!!!
10 years ago, people would have laughed at the idea of 20mph limits. Since then everyones getting bloody brainwashed.
STAND YOUR GROUND, BEFORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 MPH LIMITS IN ANOTHER TEN YEARS.
DAZ
(Safety is improved by looking where you're going, not the speedo)
Damn right Dazren. Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile. Oppose oppose oppose at every turn. These people are NEVER going to say "Well, OK if you promise to be good boys and crawl round in town we'll let you drive properly everywhere else", they're going to say "We have successfully forced you to crawl around in town, now on the back of that triumph for vegetabilists we shall keep up our momentum (something which you will no longer be allowed to do) and force you to obey a blanket 20mph speed limit everywhere while you get overtaken by stinky buses full of the lumpen proletariat"
The speed limit outside our house is 30 mph. Doing 30 mph up our road is scarey. Most of the houses open straight onto the pavement, the pavements are narrow (less than 18" in some places), the road is also narrow and cars are parked in the road outside the houses. Thankfully we have a drive way and can park our cars out of harm's way as there are numerous shunts and on one occasion a car hit a house. Good job no-one was on the pavement at the time.
windsorphil said: The worst offenders are old folks - who just wander out at random onto the roads.
Not using a designated crossing should become an offence, with a fine attached, if there is a crossing on that (stretch of) road. The police could also introduce cameras to catch naughty jaywalkers!
£30 fine and 3 points for each offence, 12 points and you're not allowed out of your house for a month - hows that?? Got CCTV already, so away we go!
Great policy, love to see it implimented....
Ha, no chance of it being an offence. They are talking about making motorists automatically responsible for any acciident involving a pedestrian or pushbike.
Mind you. less of the 20mph limits. Have you tried doing that on a motorbike for any length of time? Painful on most of the ones I've ridden (and I mean physically painfull).
Mind you. less of the 20mph limits. Have you tried doing that on a motorbike for any length of time? Painful on most of the ones I've ridden (and I mean physically painfull).
PetrolTed said: It doesn't matter what speed people do. If cars and pedestrians don't mix then we'll all be fine.
Quite right. Unsurprisingly, you might think, few pedestrians are killed on motorways. How may kids do you see playing on the motorway? The motorways are the safest roads in Britain.
Ok, so let us start a "Jaywalking kills" movement. This could build up pressure on the people in Whitehall to do some REAL safety work, not this stupid speed reduction thing.
Why this fixation with 20mph zones? I can't stand going that slow in car or on the bike. In the car my ankle hurts, and on the bike my wrists hurt. Not good.
Keep peds off the road, and cars off the pavement. Simple.
Why this fixation with 20mph zones? I can't stand going that slow in car or on the bike. In the car my ankle hurts, and on the bike my wrists hurt. Not good.
Keep peds off the road, and cars off the pavement. Simple.
PetrolTed said: It doesn't matter what speed people do. If cars and pedestrians don't mix then we'll all be fine.
How much per mile does steel fencing cost (installed) ?
If you put fencing upto prevent people from walking onto the roads it would reduce the number of accidents. It would also reduce the number of pedestrians killed by cars mounting the pavement. Access across roads by pedestrian crossings/traffic lights as present.
Over a 20 year pay back period and calculating the time saved by commercial traffic it could be a viable proposition. (It could also assist our steel industry or whats left of it and it should be quick to install with over 1M unemployed to go fix it - ie installation cost almost nowt )
Hah hah he laughed hollowly. Would you believe that they are taking all those steel railings down?
In that big list of things that was being debated last week that we all objected to, there was words to the effect of "instead of isolating pedestrians from traffic, we wish to remove the barriers and instead make motor vehicles less intimidating by slowing them down". You couldn't make this shit up, the useless bunch of lousy ****ers.
In that big list of things that was being debated last week that we all objected to, there was words to the effect of "instead of isolating pedestrians from traffic, we wish to remove the barriers and instead make motor vehicles less intimidating by slowing them down". You couldn't make this shit up, the useless bunch of lousy ****ers.
Yup... 20mph in town..
Sounds good to me. The 30 mph is far too high,
and ignored anyway. I'd make the limit 20 mph,
and make it a £1,000 fine for caught over 30 mph.
120mph on the motorway
Sounds good. In exchange for changing the blanket
30 mph into a blanket 20 mph, we get a sensible mway
speed limit (ie none).
Sounds like a sensible policy to me. The restriction
to 20 mph isn't going to affect journey times,
but removing the mway speed limit most certainly will.
Something for the tree huggers in that policy,
and something for the speed freaks.
We all win.
... with a minimum 70mph
This will never happen. Lorries are limited to 56 mph.
No we won't, they'll say "AHA! You accept that speed kills because you think 20mph limits are a good idea, therefore lowering motorway speed limits will also be a good idea!"
You're crediting these people with far too much . . . sensibleness? They have an irrational objection to people driving "fast" under any circumstances, because their blinkered view will not let them accept anything different, and they don't appear to have the intelligence to see that your proposed scheme does make a lot of sense.
This constant barrage of "SPEEDING IS BAD" has already convinced a lot of the populace that urban speed limits should be adhered to regardless of road conditions and brutally enforced wih zero tolerance, if we cede them that point as being correct then it's only a small step to being convinced that rural limits are a good idea too because of horseriders and feckin' ramblers and tractors and stuff using them, and then motorway limits because doing 75mph scares the numpties/destroys the environment/wears out the road/insert stupid non-existent reason here.
If on the one hand we have the irrational, irrascible, irritable "safety" lobby constantly making huge demands to slow everyone down all the time; and on the other hand a calm, quiet, sensible motoring lobby who are willing to say "OK, sure we'll slow down here but we'd quite like to go fast here if that's OK", we might get the odd concession but almost everything will go their way. In fact, that's pretty much the current state of play with the AA/RAC at the moment - "Gatsos are great, but could we have an 80mph motorway limit please? Hello? Did you catch that last bit?"
We have to fight these people wih their own style of rhetoric on their won terms just to maintain the status quo, let alone improve matters.
Edited to remove the word "arsebiscuits"
>> Edited by aww999 on Thursday 24th October 21:09
You're crediting these people with far too much . . . sensibleness? They have an irrational objection to people driving "fast" under any circumstances, because their blinkered view will not let them accept anything different, and they don't appear to have the intelligence to see that your proposed scheme does make a lot of sense.
This constant barrage of "SPEEDING IS BAD" has already convinced a lot of the populace that urban speed limits should be adhered to regardless of road conditions and brutally enforced wih zero tolerance, if we cede them that point as being correct then it's only a small step to being convinced that rural limits are a good idea too because of horseriders and feckin' ramblers and tractors and stuff using them, and then motorway limits because doing 75mph scares the numpties/destroys the environment/wears out the road/insert stupid non-existent reason here.
If on the one hand we have the irrational, irrascible, irritable "safety" lobby constantly making huge demands to slow everyone down all the time; and on the other hand a calm, quiet, sensible motoring lobby who are willing to say "OK, sure we'll slow down here but we'd quite like to go fast here if that's OK", we might get the odd concession but almost everything will go their way. In fact, that's pretty much the current state of play with the AA/RAC at the moment - "Gatsos are great, but could we have an 80mph motorway limit please? Hello? Did you catch that last bit?"
We have to fight these people wih their own style of rhetoric on their won terms just to maintain the status quo, let alone improve matters.
Edited to remove the word "arsebiscuits"
>> Edited by aww999 on Thursday 24th October 21:09
Oh b*ll*cks. I just pulled a neat 50mph wheelie on a 30 zone that used to be a 60. I'm pig sick of this nanny crap. Mass rebellion is what is needed. Civil disobedience at all levels to break the courts. They are wrong, their arguments flawed, their reasons corrupt. SO stuff it all. Do what you like, there isn't a Police presence anymore.
Is this what "Gatso GB" has come to? behave in front of the lense, but misbehave elsewhere?
Seems so.
Anarchy in the UK.
C.
Is this what "Gatso GB" has come to? behave in front of the lense, but misbehave elsewhere?
Seems so.
Anarchy in the UK.
C.
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