Ferrari thefts

[oharedm]

I have already posted this in V12 forum reproduced here in case you may have missed it.

Some recent reports of a significant increase in Ferrari thefts in London. Gangs stealing 812s, 488s, & Pistas with ease.
This is a 812GTS stollen in a few minutes from a street in London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk5iBu0g42g

A suggestion that international gangs may have cracked the Ferrari security protocols ?

[oharedm]

Even worse, the thefts now post on instagram. Is this a 488 ?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtHvjVQpgVe/?igshid...

[belfry]

What is the thief doing to the door lock?

[Petrus1983]

oharedm said:

Even worse, the thefts now post on instagram. Is this a 488 ?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtHvjVQpgVe/?igshid...

Boils my blood. I don't wear an overly expensive watch, I can't afford a Ferrari - but I respect those who've worked hard and decided that's how they want to spent their money. The police won't do anything - too busy making cups of tea for the just stop oil protestors.

[MrReg]

belfry said:

What is the thief doing to the door lock?

It's a cheap fiat door lock - punch it with a screwdriver, turn and it will unlock the door.
Plug into old, bypass the security and they're away.

tts

[P. ONeill]

It looks like the same method used to steal the Alfa in a previous thread. It’s such a simple method that no car is safe.

[Nuttbelle]

Yikes even less ferrari owners will take their cars out now in fear of local scrote breaking in for a joy ride

[TBCTBC]

My guess is that this is related to the Ferrari data hack in March - a guess but it seems very coincidental.

I've no idea what data was stolen but I do know of one owner who has been informed about the hack.

There were rumours they had obtained owner information and also ways to access the vehicle/disable the tracker but these are just rumours.

[garystoybox]

TBCTBC said:

My guess is that this is related to the Ferrari data hack in March - a guess but it seems very coincidental.

I've no idea what data was stolen but I do know of one owner who has been informed about the hack.

There were rumours they had obtained owner information and also ways to access the vehicle/disable the tracker but these are just rumours.

Don’t think this has anything to do with with data breach….l pretty easy to drive around London and see plenty Ferrari parked up on the road/drives. They are no more difficult to steal than any other car, but have largely been ignored due to the inability to sell on. Makes you wonder what the thieves are doing with them? Hardly a black market for 812 GTS parts? Must be a specific gang behind it and at some point the police will do something about it due to the high profile nature (and likely some influential people being impacted).

I’d been warned about this by Locktons, but pleased to see my renewal price has not been affected; likely due to my geographic location and fact car spends its life in a locked and alarmed garage.

[belfry]

If owners were able to protect the obd port would that stop thieves starting the car?

[105.4]

garystoybox said:

Must be a specific gang behind it and at some point the police will do something about it due to the high profile nature (and likely some influential people being impacted).

I wouldn’t go holding your breath.

[NMNeil]

garystoybox said:

Don’t think this has anything to do with with data breach….l pretty easy to drive around London and see plenty Ferrari parked up on the road/drives. They are no more difficult to steal than any other car, but have largely been ignored due to the inability to sell on. Makes you wonder what the thieves are doing with them?

Steal Ferrari, remove every single part from the bodyshell, put empty shell on the street, wait for the shell to come up for auction, buy shell and get a receipt, put all the previously removed parts back onto the shell, using the receipt from the auction get a new title.
Your stolen Ferrari now becomes 100% legal.

[mwstewart]

Organised crime no doubt. We're importing lots of it.

[Chrism355]

Manufacturers need to spend more money on securing these vehicles and stopping these thefts. These cars are hundreds of thousands of pounds with a 30 bob security system. The same for many high end manufactures look at Range Rover, keyless systems may be convenient for the owner but should not be even more convenient for the thief.

[craig511]

As these Ferraris keyless?

458 is old school key system.

[stuthemong]

Looks like he’s right into the ODB port to defeat the security whilst the alarm is going off.

I’d be tempted to take a critical pin (probably the write one assuming it’s serial-esque) out the ODB port to slow them down, doubt they’d work that out quickly. Would be a simple and quick security patch that I’d expect would prevent this.

[Marc p]

stuthe said:

Looks like he’s right into the ODB port to defeat the security whilst the alarm is going off.

I’d be tempted to take a critical pin (probably the write one assuming it’s serial-esque) out the ODB port to slow them down, doubt they’d work that out quickly. Would be a simple and quick security patch that I’d expect would prevent this.

Easiest way is to install a hidden switch for the fuel pump IMO, loads of people are having these ghost immobilisers fitted but ignoring the annoyance of having to input a code every time you get in the car, you have to tell everyone who needs to start it what the code is. (Garages, Valets, etc).

[Eatpies99]

craig511 said:

As these Ferraris keyless?

458 is old school key system.

Yeah but it's not hard to copy a key unfortunately either so we're no safer.....

[Mark_Blanchard]

Eatpies99 said:

Yeah but it's not hard to copy a key unfortunately either so we're no safer.....

But it's more of a hassle and getting past the immobliser. Not a 2 minute job. The younger thieves probably won't know how to get passed them.

No start button on my 360. I'd say old school is safer.

[murphyaj]

Eatpies99 said:

craig511 said:

As these Ferraris keyless?

458 is old school key system.

Yeah but it's not hard to copy a key unfortunately either so we're no safer.....

Except the keys on older cars have no wireless access to the immobiliser as they need to be physically inserted into the ignition to work, so to copy the key you need physical access to it, which adds a layer of security. Keyless entry and start means you can get into and start the car with little more than a signal repeater held up to the window. Such systems are a huge gift to car thieves, why risk getting caught breaking into a house to nick a key when you can do it all remotely.