What IF tracks could be run in both directions?

What IF tracks could be run in both directions?

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Milkyway

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9,475 posts

54 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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I have enjoyed watching the TT on TV this week & in a coffee break tried to imagine it going the other way round.
My tiny brain then moved on to the BTCC tracks.
The first corner At Thruxton would be very interesting... may just have it as a fast left hander.

I must admit, that in my much younger days that this was quite enjoyable on the early TOCA PlayStation games.


Edited by Milkyway on Sunday 11th June 09:45

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Hutchinson 100 ran anti-clockwise at Brands Hatch. Knockhill still runs some club races anti-clockwise.

Configuration of safety barriers, gravel traps and run-off areas tends to be unsuitable for anti-clockwise running at most circuits.


gotoPzero

17,266 posts

190 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Reminds me of back in the day when I was doing a lot of track days and I was at the old Anglesey track and coming down the pit straight to find a guy coming TOWARDS me. Ahh good times, good times...

andygo

6,804 posts

256 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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I used to compete in single venue stage rallies and Oulton was always interesting the wrong way round.

SS 1 often used to be started from the pit lane, then a run up to Lodge, (often track was frosty), corner just over the crest, cold brakes and slicks.

Just where was your braking point and remembering that there is zero room for error an the exit of Lodge.

Next up was Druids, again zero run off on the exit, followed by the car going quite light over the crest and slightly sideways down the hill at Clay Brook.

Going the correct way round was a doddle in comparison.

Milkyway

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9,475 posts

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Sunday 11th June 2023
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bigothunter said:
Hutchinson 100 ran anti-clockwise at Brands Hatch. Knockhill still runs some club races anti-clockwise.

Configuration of safety barriers, gravel traps and run-off areas tends to be unsuitable for anti-clockwise running at most circuits.

thumbup.... Paddock must have been a bit scary.

Donington: Old hairpin, Uphill through the Craner curves into Redgate... Mmmmm.


Edited by Milkyway on Sunday 11th June 09:15

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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andygo said:
I used to compete in single venue stage rallies and Oulton was always interesting the wrong way round.

SS 1 often used to be started from the pit lane, then a run up to Lodge, (often track was frosty), corner just over the crest, cold brakes and slicks.

Just where was your braking point and remembering that there is zero room for error an the exit of Lodge.

Next up was Druids, again zero run off on the exit, followed by the car going quite light over the crest and slightly sideways down the hill at Clay Brook.

Going the correct way round was a doddle in comparison.
We competed in a single venue rally at Snetterton in early 2000s. Regular clockwise direction (plus bomb bay excursions) in the morning but anti-clockwise after lunch.

Anti-clockwise was far more challenging.

djcube

380 posts

71 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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If you want to experience Castle Combe in the reverse direction go there on a Tuesday evening and cycle round it the wrong way.

48k

13,115 posts

149 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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gotoPzero said:
Reminds me of back in the day when I was doing a lot of track days and I was at the old Anglesey track and coming down the pit straight to find a guy coming TOWARDS me. Ahh good times, good times...
Guilty. Although in my case it was Abbots, I had just spun and was darting in to the escape road. Seemed like the obvious thing to do at the time to get out of the way getmecoat

rigga

8,732 posts

202 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Misano (Marco Simoncelli circuit) used to run in the opposite direction from what it does today.

Dog Star

16,145 posts

169 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Cadwell Park would be hysterical! yikes

Milkyway

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54 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Dog Star said:
Cadwell Park would be hysterical! yikes
Croft... yikesyikes

Cold

15,252 posts

91 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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Is it Llandow that does this as a matter of routine?

GravelBen

15,696 posts

231 months

Sunday 11th June 2023
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IIRC sections of the Nordschleife have been run backwards as part of rally stages too.

Milkyway

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54 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Monaco... Maybe a Formula E race, as a challenge.

Edited by Milkyway on Monday 12th June 07:02

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Milkyway said:
Dog Star said:
Cadwell Park would be hysterical! yikes
Croft... yikesyikes
I don't think Croft would be especially horrific run anticlockwise - as it often is on rallies. But the Mountain, from Hall Bends... duck and cover.

Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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I seem to remember a lot of discussion of this in the F1 forums during the start of the pandemic, as they were looking for places to race and Silverstone Backwards was suggested. Some of the (very bored) sim guys even did videos of it, and very bored journalists wrote pieces about it.

Sadly the idea was a non-starter, as it would be too much work to reconfigure barriers, gravel traps and other track infrastructure to go in both directions. they ended up using the conventional circuit twice on consecutive weekends, with different tyres and (luckily) different weather.

A few videos here. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=silve...

SpudLink

5,860 posts

193 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Doesn’t Knockhill have races in both directions. Not for BTCC, but other series.

Don Veloci

1,928 posts

282 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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Knockhill runs both ways. However, pretty sure it's only Scottish championship level at highest and not sure they flip the direction both ways during the same race day.

Having something like the BTCC package or BSB having to negotiate both ways in the same meeting would be a spectacle for sure. A different meaning to reverse grid.

Milkyway

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Monday 12th June 2023
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Don Veloci said:
Knockhill runs both ways. However, pretty sure it's only Scottish championship level at highest and not sure they flip the direction both ways during the same race day.

Having something like the BTCC package or BSB having to negotiate both ways in the same meeting would be a spectacle for sure. A different meaning to reverse grid.
A reversed reserved grid race.
But a stand-alone reversed Knockhill round for the BTCC would be interesting.


Edited by Milkyway on Monday 12th June 09:50

N0ddie

380 posts

166 months

Monday 12th June 2023
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I find driving Knockhill in reverse more enjoyable than "the right way round".

Surely somewhere like Silverstone (using the GP layout) would be fairly easy? Walls and barriers are miles from the track edge so changes should be simple?