Super unethical end of lease car buy question
Super unethical end of lease car buy question
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Seventyseven7

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1,024 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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I have an Audi that we lease that’s coming to the end of the agreement.

VWFS give you the option to buy the car at the end of your lease via https://www.purchasemyvehicle.co.uk/

To get a price you put your car reg in and the mileage. Now m the actual mileage of the car is 11,000 miles after 3 years and it gives us the price of 26k to buy.

We paid for 10k miles a year but never used that. If I put in 30k miles the price offered is now just over 23k. What’s stopping me putting in 30k miles and buying the car at the cheaper price?

As per the title, I know this is very unethical and I certainly would not do it….

Caddyshack

14,524 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
I have an Audi that we lease that’s coming to the end of the agreement.

VWFS give you the option to buy the car at the end of your lease via https://www.purchasemyvehicle.co.uk/

To get a price you put your car reg in and the mileage. Now m the actual mileage of the car is 11,000 miles after 3 years and it gives us the price of 26k to buy.

We paid for 10k miles a year but never used that. If I put in 30k miles the price offered is now just over 23k. What’s stopping me putting in 30k miles and buying the car at the cheaper price?

As per the title, I know this is very unethical and I certainly would not do it….
I guess they would ask for some verification to stop this and to check when people go over the limit. Do they ask for the first MOT cert later?

If not then give it a go, you could go oops, silly me later I guess?

Dcadders

63 posts

54 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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Isn’t getting the car serviced on the correct time and mileage intervals a mandatory part of your lease, I assume they will check that and cross reference the mileage with the dealer network?

samoht

7,141 posts

173 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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OP, later tonight:


It's a weird one because in a sense you've paid for the 30k miles already.

Seventyseven7

Original Poster:

1,024 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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Dcadders said:
Isn’t getting the car serviced on the correct time and mileage intervals a mandatory part of your lease, I assume they will check that and cross reference the mileage with the dealer network?
MOT is mandatory, servicing is not. If you don’t get it services they charge you a fee on the return of the car.

Last MOT might have 10k miles for example, nothing to say I’ve not done 20k miles in the last 6 months with next MOT not due for another 6 months which would be after I’ve purchased the car…

As I said, I won’t be doing this, just checking to see if it’s impossible to do anyway

Terminator X

20,184 posts

231 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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Doesn't make any sense as if you put in 100k miles presumably it is even cheaper? Audi must lose out the cheaper it gets, software glitch?

TX.

fooman

1,159 posts

91 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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... but if you put in 100k they'll also charge excess milage. It would be nice if you could be refunded for the unused milage allowance and iit kind of evens itself out but I can't see that happening.

Blue_star

1,058 posts

43 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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You have paid for the miles.

Auto810graphy

1,611 posts

119 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Is actually quite common and I have never known it to be checked. Only time that would get noticed is a if you had a recent VW visit, MOT or plugged in their car health tracker thing they post out.

Only downside is they often mark the NMR (National Mileage Register) with the mileage you give them.

Seventyseven7

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1,024 posts

96 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Terminator X said:
Doesn't make any sense as if you put in 100k miles presumably it is even cheaper? Audi must lose out the cheaper it gets, software glitch?

TX.
I was suggesting putting in 30k miles as my lease agreement had given me 30k miles over 3 years with no excess penalty. If I put 100k miles, I would be penalised for going over the mileage.

Seventyseven7

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1,024 posts

96 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Auto810graphy said:
Is actually quite common and I have never known it to be checked. Only time that would get noticed is a if you had a recent VW visit, MOT or plugged in their car health tracker thing they post out.

Only downside is they often mark the NMR (National Mileage Register) with the mileage you give them.
Top man. I certainly won’t be doing it. tongue out

vikingaero

12,904 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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"Hello Stanislav, those cables you make that stop or reverse mileage on lease cars. Do you have one that can INCREASE my mileage...?"

MuZiZZle

680 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Just do what Ferris did, but not in reverse!

K4sper

356 posts

99 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Blue_star said:
You have paid for the miles.
Exactly. You will have bought car that is worth less, for a lower price? Hardly a life hack...

Olivera

8,688 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
Dcadders said:
Isn’t getting the car serviced on the correct time and mileage intervals a mandatory part of your lease, I assume they will check that and cross reference the mileage with the dealer network?
MOT is mandatory, servicing is not. If you don’t get it services they charge you a fee on the return of the car.
Does that mean you've not had the car serviced? I think you'll find that servicing is mandatory as part of the lease agreement, with penalties at the end if you haven't bothered.

Seventyseven7

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1,024 posts

96 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Olivera said:
Seventyseven7 said:
Dcadders said:
Isn’t getting the car serviced on the correct time and mileage intervals a mandatory part of your lease, I assume they will check that and cross reference the mileage with the dealer network?
MOT is mandatory, servicing is not. If you don’t get it serviced they charge you a fee on the return of the car.
Does that mean you've not had the car serviced? I think you'll find that servicing is mandatory as part of the lease agreement, with penalties at the end if you haven't bothered.
That's pretty much what I have said
"servicing is not. If you don’t get it serviced they charge you a fee on the return of the car. "

Olivera

8,688 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Seventyseven7 said:
That's pretty much what I have said
"servicing is not. If you don’t get it serviced they charge you a fee on the return of the car. "
What is required is defined in the lease agreement, which mandates servicing according to the manufacturers schedule. Your argument is akin to "I adhere to littering laws, I litter then pay the fine" biggrin.

Caddyshack

14,524 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Mileage correction company could probably put any mileage you want on to the dash board and then take it all off again back to correct?

DE1975

534 posts

133 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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Don't sweat it, just put the mileage as 30K. As has been said, you've paid for those miles with higher monthlies.

I did help my old man buy his car at the end of the lease (by help, I mean doing it online, which he's not au fait with). Think he was with leaseplan from memory. Their end of lease sales were handled by BCA driver sales. To buy the car, just went to the website to request a price, putting in the mileage in, and they emailed back a price. Then just agreed to go ahead and they emailed an invoice, which was paid via online banking, and had the V5 in the post a week or so later. There was no examination of wear and tear or verification of actual mileage to my knowledge.

OnionBhaji99

214 posts

163 months

Thursday 15th June 2023
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It is fraud (financial gain by deception). However, you are unlikely to be caught.