RE: 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (992) | PH Review
RE: 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (992) | PH Review
Sunday 25th June 2023

2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T (992) | PH Review

The T is the only way to get a regular 992 Carrera with a manual gearbox - should you?


The drive doesn’t begin well in the Carrera T - it won’t start. Foot on the brake, twist the ‘key’ next to the wheel and… nothing. Dash lights up, but no spark. Try again, because this can’t be right. Still nothing. Is the key in my pocket? Yep. There’s fuel in it. What on earth could i… Oh. The dash message explains: ‘Press clutch to start’. What a tool. So ubiquitous has the PDK Porsche experience become that the presence of a manual - a T USP in fact, as it’s not offered with the standard Carrera - wasn’t even countenanced. Silly billy. But it’s very much welcome once brain is engaged. Manual Porsches are the best Porsches, right?

The seven-speed transmission is one of a few T-specific features that aren’t available on the 385hp entry point to 992s, helping to counter some of the cynicism that exists around the T badge not bringing an awful lot more to the experience. (The introduction of a 2.0-litre Macan T can’t have helped that perception much, either.) As well as less sound insulation, thinner glass and a lighter battery, this latest 992 iteration also gets PASM Sport as standard, not offered on the Carrera and which drops the ride height a tad. Similarly, Porsche torque vectoring with a mechanical limited-slip diff is thrown in, and rear axle steer is another available option (fitted here) that buyers can’t have on the ordinary Carrera. It is yet another 911 derivative, yes, but you can see the place for it, hopefully injecting some fizz and some fun into what’s a quite serious sports car package.

Looks great as well, the T, and that shouldn’t be ignored. On the larger Carrera S wheels, in Racing Yellow and ever so slightly lower to the ground, it’s definitely more arresting than a base car. Even the graphics on the side look quite smart, and there are surely as many 911 sticker misses out there as hits. Same goes for inside: this isn’t a drastically different 992 by any stretch, but the concessions to enthusiast use do make it more interesting: two-seat 911s always feel a bit more special, and the regular fabric seats up front clasp in all the right places. Once you’ve realised it’s there, moreover, the presence of a gearstick in a 2023 911 never fails to raise a smile.

Once underway, the driving experience neatly reflects the spec, and picks up pretty much exactly where the old 991 T left off. It’s a keener, meaner, more urgent 911 Carrera, one that retains that famed usability - it’ll cruise at 2,000rpm or so, and the road noise isn’t a whole lot worse - while making every journey that bit more interesting. The manual is a key component of that, forcing your involvement and enriching the experience at every opportunity.

Where once it seemed folk were a bit snooty about the seven-speed (probably correctly), it feels better than ever here. The shift is nicely weighted, short enough in throw and really accurate (unless you’re the kind of weirdo who wants to go from seventh to fifth), complemented by a clutch that’s just about spot on. Much as it did in the Sport Classic, the T’s is most certainly a manual that’ll have you shifting for the fun of it, a layer of interaction that the PDK simply can't offer. It brings some additional character to the engine, too, the auto masking a bit of lag that can be discovered from hooking a high gear at low rpm; as is so often the case, three pedals tend to unearth a side of the 911 you wouldn't otherwise have noticed. And that's important as the model gets ever more refined (and weightier). 

Second gear in the T runs to more than 75mph, and third will reach comfortably into three figures, so it’s not exactly sprint gearing. This does seem a bit of shame given there are so many ratios to choose from, if hardly a dealbreaker. While the manual feels fantastic flashing through an upshift at the limiter or nailing a rev-matched downchange, it remains properly satisfying in more everyday scenarios as well. Flitting between third and fourth on a B road here is, predictably enough, a whole lot more joyous here than with a dual-clutch.

As for the rest of the package, it says something of the T’s additional zest and vigour that you almost default to the shoutier exhaust and tenser damper mode. The additional vibrancy of those settings complements a 911 of such eagerness, agility, and inertia-free response. Keep the drive mode in Normal, though, as that keeps the rev match off - you didn’t buy a T for the car to get perfect downshifts, did you?

Combine this additional vim with the trademark 911 attributes - great driving position, super brakes, a real willingness to rev - and there’s clearly a level of enjoyment on tap that the entry-level Carrera doesn't reach. The weight loss and the equipment updates probably sound inconsequential, but the result is undoubtedly a 911 that feels lighter on its feet and that bit more enthusiastic. Indeed, such is the uptick in chassis dynamism that there’s the occasional desire for a bit more out of the engine.

Sounds silly, of course, because the bald stats show this to be a very fast car. And when things are going right, it most certainly is. But PDK is so good at getting the right gear at the right time (and has an extra ratio to get through) that it’s convinced us a Carrera is probably faster than it is. Sometimes you’ll be exiting bends in third (having flawlessly downshifted on the way in, of course), and want to get up the revs for more of that 935-style sound. But then this is a car that’ll do 110mph or so in that gear, with only a bit more torque than a Focus ST. Sometimes you crave just a bit more urgency to really bring the whole experience to life. But not all that often. Second gear is always an option, after all…

 

If the arguments against the T sound a bit weak, that’s most likely because they are; for evidence of what can be achieved within the confines of the base Carrera, it’s hard to think of what more could be done. This is a nicer-driving 992 than the manual Carrera S, because the gearbox feels a better fit for the rest of the changes, and it would be hard to say with any real conviction that a GTS would offer up significantly more thrills for its premium.

Speaking of which… stating that a Porsche 911 costs a lot of money feels a bit like telling you the engine is in the back. But even so, the T looks a lot given a 992 Carrera launched as an £83,000 car in 2019. A lot has happened since then, yes, and Porsche is hardly alone in raising its prices, but a new Carrera is now from £97,000 - and this particular T has come out of the configurator at £113,638. 

The T’s modifications feel worth the £8k premium for the richer experience on offer (even with another £1,800 of rear axle steering to think about as well), and probably represents the best value for a non-GT 992 manual - without visiting a circuit, you really don’t need any more 911 than this. Perhaps the bigger quandary for buyers might be the other two-seat, two-door Porsches that also have a flat-six behind the driver and can be bought for less, as both Cayman GTS or GT4 represent compelling alternatives to the T. That said, short of a GT3, this is the manual 992 to buy. In an uncertain future for both three-pedal gearboxes and petrol sports cars, that feels like a pretty good place for the new Carrera T to be.


SPECIFICATION | 2023 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA T

Engine: 2981cc, flat-six, twin-turbo
Transmission: 7-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 385@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 332@1,950-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 4.5 secs
Top speed: 182mph
Weight: 1,470kg (DIN)
MPG: 27.4
CO2: 234g/km
Price £105,700 (price as standard; price as tested £113,638, comprising BOSE Surround Sound System for £1,152, Light design package for £407, ParkAssist including Surround View for £1,374, Fire extinguisher for £155, Electric folding exterior mirrors for £276, LED Matrix main lights including Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus for £2,361, Rear axle steering for £1,830, Side window trims painted in black (high gloss) for £383. Racing Yellow, Sport-Tex interior package, Sports seats plus and 20/21-inch Carrera S wheels all NCOs)

 

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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,906 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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As much as I dislike myself for saying it(because I love 3 pedals), I do personally think that the current 911 does suit the PDK far more than the manual gearbox I reckon.

oilit

2,813 posts

208 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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An article that talks almost exclusively about a manual gearbox and no pictures of the interior and gearstick?

Kipsrs

717 posts

79 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
As much as I dislike myself for saying it(because I love 3 pedals), I do personally think that the current 911 does suit the PDK far more than the manual gearbox I reckon.
Plus one. . thumbup

Billy_Whizzzz

2,633 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
As much as I dislike myself for saying it(because I love 3 pedals), I do personally think that the current 911 does suit the PDK far more than the manual gearbox I reckon.
Disagree. The feel of a mechanical connection via gear knob and left foot to that flat 6 is one of life’s greatest pleasures.

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

77 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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I would love one, but even with the money to spend, at 113k I’m out. Yellow looks good.

I’m now running a manual as my daily (plus the family auto) and no regrets. Get one while you can.

GreatScott2016

2,543 posts

118 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Can't go wrong with either manual or PDK. A genuinely difficult call for me. Lovely thing though.

Matt Bird

1,554 posts

235 months

PH Reportery Lad

Saturday 24th June 2023
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oilit said:
An article that talks almost exclusively about a manual gearbox and no pictures of the interior and gearstick?
There are some coming! Just a couple of phone snaps ahead of proper Porsche pics on Monday.

Matt Bird

1,554 posts

235 months

PH Reportery Lad

Saturday 24th June 2023
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couple of LHD press pics in there now thumbup

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,906 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
As much as I dislike myself for saying it(because I love 3 pedals), I do personally think that the current 911 does suit the PDK far more than the manual gearbox I reckon.
Disagree. The feel of a mechanical connection via gear knob and left foot to that flat 6 is one of life’s greatest pleasures.
I didn't like the gearing in the manual E92 M3 that I had and this seems very similar, so that was one of the biggest reasons why I'd go PDK. Plus autos/twin clutch gearboxes tend to suit torquey engines in my experience as well, however looking at the torque figure in this it actually isn't all that torquey to be fair.

RJH777

212 posts

72 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Feel like I'd have to go GTS or S with the manual to make the 911 premium worth it, so you get that unique selling point of semi-usable rear seats etc. Can't see why if you wanted the manual Porsche experience outside a GT3 but were happy with 2 seats why you wouldn't save the money and go GTS 4.0 or GT4 Cayman

911Spanker

3,700 posts

46 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Decent for a new car but I would much rather go 996/997 and save a load of money whilst having a more engaging driving experience.

Appreciate you can't compare new to used but if you just want driving thrills, there are better places to put your cash.

Wab1974uk

1,412 posts

57 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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I loved the 991 Carrera T, and nearly bought one.

But for me the 992 T is far too expensive for just 385bhp. I played with the configurator, and yes you can get it very basic, but by ticking a few tasty and desirable options, it works out very very expensive for just 385bhp.


Warren Obhead

51 posts

51 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Personally i think the rear end looks naff. Have done for a while tbh.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Would be my pick of the 992 range, but I still think I’d prefer a narrow body 991 T.

PinkHouse

2,195 posts

87 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
I loved the 991 Carrera T, and nearly bought one.

But for me the 992 T is far too expensive for just 385bhp. I played with the configurator, and yes you can get it very basic, but by ticking a few tasty and desirable options, it works out very very expensive for just 385bhp.
This car is testament to the genius of the Porsche marketing dept. They've been able to get customers falling over themselves at their dealerships to get "allocations" for a parts-bin base model Carrera

Grantstown

1,372 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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In isolation a very good car, isn’t it really succumbing to Porsche’s marketing strategy? If the base car still had a manual gearbox option, there would be no point in buying this. The lightweight stuff is nonsense and the standard ride height is better on the UKs roads. Money would be better spent on the brakes and then the car is ready for it’s Litchfield tune up, once out of the warranty period.

Interesting comparison to the GT3. I’ve driven the 992 GT3 with a manual box and it doesn’t work on our roads. The hearing is too long and so the power band is out of reach. It needs to head to the track to be enjoyed.

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

44,906 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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Wab1974uk said:
I loved the 991 Carrera T, and nearly bought one.

But for me the 992 T is far too expensive for just 385bhp. I played with the configurator, and yes you can get it very basic, but by ticking a few tasty and desirable options, it works out very very expensive for just 385bhp.
I'm also shocked that a twin turbo engine is only giving you this much torque as well...Torque (lb ft): 332@1,950-5,000rpm. This is a lot of money for not a lot of BHP/Torque as you say, but that is the Porsche way generally though. I guess that if you want a fast/powerful Porsche though then you go in the direction of the Turbo or Turbo S in fairness.

WCZ

11,543 posts

224 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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As said by others I think 114k is a lot of money for 385hp !

Also when I looked at the official weight figures by porsche it weirdly stated no weight saving !

Water Fairy

6,619 posts

185 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
As much as I dislike myself for saying it(because I love 3 pedals), I do personally think that the current 911 does suit the PDK far more than the manual gearbox I reckon.
Disagree. The feel of a mechanical connection via gear knob and left foot to that flat 6 is one of life’s greatest pleasures.
I didn't like the gearing in the manual E92 M3 that I had and this seems very similar, so that was one of the biggest reasons why I'd go PDK. Plus autos/twin clutch gearboxes tend to suit torquey engines in my experience as well, however looking at the torque figure in this it actually isn't all that torquey to be fair.
I think you'll find the Porsche manual far more satisfying to use than the Beemer's Lee. I speak from experience.

Anyway I would defo have the manual in this, it's only 385bhp at the end of the day and very useable.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 24th June 2023
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The 'T' concept is a good one - lighter weight, closer to the action, more visceral thrills, more physical connection.

But I think Porsche have used it on the wrong model. Once upon a time (a LOOOONG time ago) the 'T' thing was probably right at home on the 911. But, we're now so far away from that as a starting point that I just don't think it's worth it. The 911 has now become so large and so heavy, with so much grunt and grip, that making a more focussed version of it would be like ordering a double quarter pounder with cheese and large fries, and having a diet cola to save calories.

I'm probably turning into a bit of a stuck record here, but Porsche should start a sub brand. It's perhaps understandable that Porsche have morphed the 911 into a heavier, much larger GT, as they also offer the Boxster and Cayman as their junior sports cars. The only problem with that is, they aint junior any more! My 987 is a foot and a half (!) longer than my old MR2 Roadster, and today's Boxsters and Caymans are even larger than mine. Imagine a car the size and configuration of a Mk1 MR2 coupe, but with a much better handling balance, a 2.3 litre N/A flat six developing 180 BHP, six speed gearing (as LOW as possible) and a weight of 1000kg.

To me, that is where the 'T' badge belongs. Or, at least, something moving in that direction.