New (to my area) Speed Cameras
Discussion
Link to local news site. https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/new-devo...
Apparently they can also record mobile phone use and failure to wear a seatbelt.
No marks on the road other than a very small box.
Apparently they can also record mobile phone use and failure to wear a seatbelt.
No marks on the road other than a very small box.
I’ve seen the one in Totnes - which is near a school, on the busy A385.
By bi-directional, I take it that it covers both lanes, but only in the direction that the cameras are pointing…
And if it can detect phone and seat belt use, is it recording live video and using AI to spot offenders?
What’s the name of this new tech?
By bi-directional, I take it that it covers both lanes, but only in the direction that the cameras are pointing…
And if it can detect phone and seat belt use, is it recording live video and using AI to spot offenders?
What’s the name of this new tech?
Hardly surprising the exmouth one has caught so many when it's on a hill 100m from the 40 zone and hidden by a 20ft hedge whilst 300m down the road the old camera is clearly visible near the dangerous junction.
If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
Nuttbelle said:
Hardly surprising the exmouth one has caught so many when it's on a hill 100m from the 40 zone and hidden by a 20ft hedge whilst 300m down the road the old camera is clearly visible near the dangerous junction.
If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
By education do you mean learning where the new static one is and slowing down for it before speeding up again?If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
If people are being caught by static cameras, they need to go to Specsavers to be brutally honest... and if they're going fast enough in a residential 30 to not qualify for a course, or be outright banned, then I have zero sympathy.
Nuttbelle said:
Hardly surprising the exmouth one has caught so many when it's on a hill 100m from the 40 zone and hidden by a 20ft hedge whilst 300m down the road the old camera is clearly visible near the dangerous junction.
If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
Completely agree about entrapment If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
Long live the day that your car automatically complies with the speed limit at every location it travels through!
These new cameras are mounted on tall poles and for reasons, they have clearly decided that they won’t paint the bottom half in high-vis. This makes them a little less obvious IMO as drivers should be be spending more of their resources scanning the road surface, pavements and the street level in general for emerging hazards.
Of course, this new tech will likely only last a few years before it is replaced with something even moreinsidious effective, operating at much higher altitudes… 
Of course, this new tech will likely only last a few years before it is replaced with something even more
Nuttbelle said:
Hardly surprising the exmouth one has caught so many when it's on a hill 100m from the 40 zone and hidden by a 20ft hedge whilst 300m down the road the old camera is clearly visible near the dangerous junction.
If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
Most speeders won't change unless they are penalised (and many still don't even then).If I was being cynical I would go as far as saying its entrapment to raise revenue.
Speeding should be about education not penalties and revenue.
It's all very simple.........keep to the speed limit!
Mogul said:
These new cameras are mounted on tall poles and for reasons, they have clearly decided that they won’t paint the bottom half in high-vis. This makes them a little less obvious IMO as drivers should be be spending more of their resources scanning the road surface, pavements and the street level in general for emerging hazards.
Of course, this new tech will likely only last a few years before it is replaced with something even moreinsidious effective, operating at much higher altitudes…
Sorry for popping in the state the obvious - But if you don't speed, these cameras won't catch you. Of course, this new tech will likely only last a few years before it is replaced with something even more
Nuttbelle said:
Very easy to be going 35 having just come out of a 40 mph zone 100 yards away and going downhill.
No excuse for 61 but 35 is easily done
Not really, depends on how well the car is being driven. It's not exactly difficult to check the speedometer but many just don't bother.No excuse for 61 but 35 is easily done
Wonder what they’ll try and make money on once all cars limit themselves and speeding offences go down and they don’t make much money. I’m sure they’ll find something else to sting the motorist with.
We all know we shouldn’t speed etc but the way they talk about they don’t understand why people speed because it costs more in fuel and brakes etc; what a tool.
When you watch the cop shows, the ones who are ridiculously speeding in nicked cars or no licence etc get less of a penalty than legit people with a licence. It’s those shi#bags that are the worst culprits and probably the ones who are causing the most statistics of speeding and accidents due to speed.
We all know we shouldn’t speed etc but the way they talk about they don’t understand why people speed because it costs more in fuel and brakes etc; what a tool.
When you watch the cop shows, the ones who are ridiculously speeding in nicked cars or no licence etc get less of a penalty than legit people with a licence. It’s those shi#bags that are the worst culprits and probably the ones who are causing the most statistics of speeding and accidents due to speed.
When the police don’t have enough resources to attend or follow up burglaries or car crime unless it involves speeding then it’s a sad state of affairs.
There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
jmn said:
Devon and Cornwall Police are now using drones to catch dangerous and/or speeding drivers. Apparently the drone measures average speed between 2 fixed points on the road.
There was a big bike meet at Bideford a few weeks ago and a lot of riders received NIPs for excess speed.
I wondered how the drones would be calibrated to do this. According to MCN the drone pilots spot the bikes but the actual speed is still confirmed by cops with actual speed guns on the ground. There was a big bike meet at Bideford a few weeks ago and a lot of riders received NIPs for excess speed.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/police-drones/
One day there will be so many camera's the state (formerly a country) will be able to fine everybody for doing something wrong, even if they didn't know they were commiting an offence.
They'll be able to pick and choose where the goal posts are and how much revenue the need whilst controlling your bank accounts if you dissaprove..
They'll be able to pick and choose where the goal posts are and how much revenue the need whilst controlling your bank accounts if you dissaprove..
Geffg said:
When the police don’t have enough resources to attend or follow up burglaries or car crime unless it involves speeding then it’s a sad state of affairs.
There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
Surely the place they will make most money is the place more people speed? Or am I missing the point There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
Patio said:
Long live the day that your car automatically complies with the speed limit at every location it travels through!
My Cupra Formentor will, with Traffic Sign Recognition being (optionally) connected to the Autonomous Cruise Control, it will speed up or slow down as required into the new limit - other road users permitting. Useful near my house where there’s a series of continuous 30, 50, 40, 60, 70mph average speed camera zones.Dingu said:
Geffg said:
When the police don’t have enough resources to attend or follow up burglaries or car crime unless it involves speeding then it’s a sad state of affairs.
There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
Surely the place they will make most money is the place more people speed? Or am I missing the point There’s always money found to install speed cameras.
Have they actually reduced accidents and why are they always seemingly strategically placed where it’s likely to make the most money.
Often* the locations where people habitually speed are those where it's (whisper it) not dangerous to break the posted limit, either because the limit has been unreasonably reduced, or because the actual hazard is a couple of miles away, or simply because visibility is excellent and there are no junctions to worry about along that specific stretch.
IF speed enforcement was actually about road safety, you'd find cameras, vans, handhelds (& now drones) AT the high-risk locations.
But instead, you find them on top of motorway bridges, and along dead-straight overtaking spots on trunk roads, or just inside a 30-limit to catch people who've left braking a little late. Because it's a game to them (I don't believe the protestations to the contrary, for the reasons posted above), and because the SCPs are incentivised on revenue generation (which let's face it is a dead giveaway).
* I know, far from all...
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