Subaru V Outlander PHEV
Discussion
Should I????
I currently own a Forester XT petrol. Bought it to tow over 2 ton in a trailer everynownthen. Its a heck of a car, 2013 worth maybe £11k ish. I dont need that towability anymore but will need to tow 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton occasionally. I have solar. Most journeys are under 30 miles, maybe once a month, 50 miles. I do maybe 1500 miles a year. (I have another car). IYHO is the PHEV a good choice to swap the Subaru for???
I should have added that I have a 5.6kwh solar BUT can only export 3.6kwh. So every day I have 2 kwh just not being used...(unless the washing is on etc etc)....hence me sort of thinking, with all the local mileage I do...is this the right car for me. We do have a heap of a civic that we abuse but thats a petrol doing up to 40mpg....we would use the Civic less and the PHEV more I think.
My Subaru is £325 a year car tax, is it right that say a 2014/5 car is zero??
I currently own a Forester XT petrol. Bought it to tow over 2 ton in a trailer everynownthen. Its a heck of a car, 2013 worth maybe £11k ish. I dont need that towability anymore but will need to tow 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton occasionally. I have solar. Most journeys are under 30 miles, maybe once a month, 50 miles. I do maybe 1500 miles a year. (I have another car). IYHO is the PHEV a good choice to swap the Subaru for???
I should have added that I have a 5.6kwh solar BUT can only export 3.6kwh. So every day I have 2 kwh just not being used...(unless the washing is on etc etc)....hence me sort of thinking, with all the local mileage I do...is this the right car for me. We do have a heap of a civic that we abuse but thats a petrol doing up to 40mpg....we would use the Civic less and the PHEV more I think.
My Subaru is £325 a year car tax, is it right that say a 2014/5 car is zero??
Cootuk3 said:
I have read that the Outlander PHEV battery degrades quite astonishingly each year by about 4%, possible due to poor battery management rather than poor battery packs.
I suspect our 2014 is down to about 8kwh usable now. Maybe less.Edited by Cootuk3 on Saturday 8th July 17:40
It'll do about 15 miles on the battery. That's still fine for us though.
Put that ?? out to the Mit PHEV group on faceache.....several have come back already with replies. 1 2014 gets 25, a 2015 guys car averages 15.....
Bugger. the whole point of perhaps getting one is the electrical range as the majority of distances we now do is 20-30 miles ish. Perhaps I should have stayed with a diesel but then again..... we dont do the distances for the DPF.....rock----hardplace!!!!
Bugger. the whole point of perhaps getting one is the electrical range as the majority of distances we now do is 20-30 miles ish. Perhaps I should have stayed with a diesel but then again..... we dont do the distances for the DPF.....rock----hardplace!!!!
subarumits said:
Put that ?? out to the Mit PHEV group on faceache.....several have come back already with replies. 1 2014 gets 25, a 2015 guys car averages 15.....
Bugger. the whole point of perhaps getting one is the electrical range as the majority of distances we now do is 20-30 miles ish. Perhaps I should have stayed with a diesel but then again..... we dont do the distances for the DPF.....rock----hardplace!!!!
You'll struggle to any PHEV with that range in the same price range. Bugger. the whole point of perhaps getting one is the electrical range as the majority of distances we now do is 20-30 miles ish. Perhaps I should have stayed with a diesel but then again..... we dont do the distances for the DPF.....rock----hardplace!!!!
Possibly with the exception of the Vauxhall/Chevrolet Ampera. Although I don't know if that can tow. I suspect not.
And thats the struggle we have. We dont do the mileage to justify a diesel.....although I could go on a decent 20/30 run in second gear for the dpf but.......
Several replies on the faceache group are still coming back with anything from 15 miles in winter to high 20's. Not many in the low 30's at all.
Several replies on the faceache group are still coming back with anything from 15 miles in winter to high 20's. Not many in the low 30's at all.
Truckosaurus said:
Perhaps the better solution might be to swap the Forester and Civic you have for a more sheddy tow car (eg. an older Forester) and get a cheaper electric car for town driving (eg. Leaf or Zoe).
Rather than finding the Holy Grail of an electric tow car.
MMM have thought of that but.....we intend to run the civic into the ground. it knackered but all the basics work fine....when the engine or box goes, it'll go and yes a cheap ev might be the answer there.....but why havent other manufacturers come along with a decent PHEV with say a 50 mile range.... Rather than finding the Holy Grail of an electric tow car.
subarumits said:
.....but why havent other manufacturers come along with a decent PHEV with say a 50 mile range....
There are things like the newer BMW X5 plug in hybrids that claim 50+ miles, but they still cost a lot more than a shonky old Outlander.Hopefully the battle between depreciation and battery degradation will work out in favour of those of us with modest budgets soon enough.
Truckosaurus said:
subarumits said:
.....but why havent other manufacturers come along with a decent PHEV with say a 50 mile range....
There are things like the newer BMW X5 plug in hybrids that claim 50+ miles, but they still cost a lot more than a shonky old Outlander.Hopefully the battle between depreciation and battery degradation will work out in favour of those of us with modest budgets soon enough.
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