Tread depth of new tyres

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jamesson

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3,348 posts

235 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Hello all. I have a Dacia Duster which runs on 215/65 R16 tyres and the current ones are coming up for renewal in the not too distant future.

It has Continental Eco Contact 6 at the moment and they've done pretty well as I've done over 35,000 miles on them. I was going to replace like for like but I found out they only come with 6mm tread now, as opposed to the normal 8mm.

I've tried searching for somewhere that will tell you the tread depth of new tyres but can't find anything.

Does anyone have a recommendation for long lasting tyres with an 8mm tread depth? I know Michelin is generally regarded as good for longevity but if their tyres now also come with under 8mm from new, perhaps there is a tyre which will outlast it owing to having more tread to begin with.

Obviously off road tyres come with more tread depth, but they won't necessarily wear more slowly and there could be a cost in terms of increased fuel consumption.

All thoughts welcome!

MustangGT

13,068 posts

294 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Most new tyres come with 6-8mm tread depth. I suggest 4-season tyres, most I have tried come with more than 6mm. I am trying to remember what was on my 2022 Duster 4x4, Goodyear Vector 4 season I think. Excellent tyres, I have run them on a number of smaller SUVs.

stevieturbo

17,745 posts

261 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Who said what is "normal" ?

All tyres are different

drmotorsport

871 posts

257 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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If you want tread depth then maybe you should be looking for Mud&snow/winter tyres.

Pica-Pica

15,138 posts

98 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Goodyear EfficientGrip (Run on Flat, in my case) come with 8mm.

Smint

2,309 posts

49 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Recently put a pair of Goodyears Efficient Grips on the family Golf, they came with a good 8mm of tread.
Something i'll be looking for in future tyre purchases, thought it was mean enough to find 7mm but 6mm is taking the proverbial..

Pica-Pica

15,138 posts

98 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Smint said:
Recently put a pair of Goodyears Efficient Grips on the family Golf, they came with a good 8mm of tread.
Something i'll be looking for in future tyre purchases, thought it was mean enough to find 7mm but 6mm is taking the proverbial..
Yes, following my post just now, I went out and measured my new Goodyear EfficientGrip tyre (fitted 3 days ago). It was 8.5mm around the centre groove.

Smint

2,309 posts

49 months

Friday 14th July 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
Yes, following my post just now, I went out and measured my new Goodyear EfficientGrip tyre (fitted 3 days ago). It was 8.5mm around the centre groove.
Might be interesting for others who noted the new depth of their tyres to post too, is there a tyre sales site that notes such data in the description does any one know, Camskill have this info in the description of some but not all tyres..


jamesson

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3,348 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th July 2023
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Thank you all for your replies. More research required, but nice to know the Goodyears come with 8.5mm of tread if nothing else!

julianm

1,654 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th July 2023
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These Uniroyals have 8.8mm according to Camskill
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s8008p158439/Unir...

Thinking of the same for my Forester.

mikeyr

3,189 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Know the Bridgestone Turanza Enliten that come on an ID.3 start with 5.8 / 5.9 mm. Also v prone to puncturing!

5s Alive

2,447 posts

48 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Our Kona EV came with Michelin Primacy 4 (S1). I noticed the shallow 6.5mm tread almost immediately.

I still have a set of Lexus wheels with 215x45x17 Toyos (Prius/CT200h specific) that still have 5.7mm after 4/5 years of summer use! Don't know what they started with.

I understand that EV specific tyres are harder wearing/low rolling resistance so tread depth is not necessarily related to expected lifetime.

Low rolling resistance, lol - equates to zero grip in snow. Very nearly got stuck in a virtually flat car park in Pitlochry last December. Goodyear Vector 4 seasons incoming...



Olivera

8,064 posts

253 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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If you got over 35k miles on the original tyres then why do you need to penny pinch further?

Worth noting that grip *decreases* in the dry as the tread height increases, as the tread blocks roll over on cornerning. Hence tread depth doesn't usually go above 8mm, and higher performance tyres often have less tread.

Pica-Pica

15,138 posts

98 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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On my previous car E36 BMW (RWD) I experienced
Fronts: 1mm wear every 6k miles
Rears: 1mm wear every 3k miles

jamesson

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3,348 posts

235 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Olivera said:
If you got over 35k miles on the original tyres then why do you need to penny pinch further?

Worth noting that grip *decreases* in the dry as the tread height increases, as the tread blocks roll over on cornerning. Hence tread depth doesn't usually go above 8mm, and higher performance tyres often have less tread.
Because I'm a penny pincher. laugh

In all seriousness though, if you could have a tyre which has similar performance to others and costs about the same but happens to last longer, why wouldn't you explore that?

I do over 25,000 miles per annum in this one car. The longer I can make the tyres last, the cheaper it is for me.

jamesson

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Wednesday 19th July 2023
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julianm said:
These Uniroyals have 8.8mm according to Camskill
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s8008p158439/Unir...

Thinking of the same for my Forester.
That's useful, thank you. I had a quick look around similar tyres on Camskill and a lot of them have the tread depth listed unlike any other sites I've looked at so far.

Dave.

7,655 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Tread depth when new is no indication of how many miles a tyre will do.

MustangGT

13,068 posts

294 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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jamesson said:
julianm said:
These Uniroyals have 8.8mm according to Camskill
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s8008p158439/Unir...

Thinking of the same for my Forester.
That's useful, thank you. I had a quick look around similar tyres on Camskill and a lot of them have the tread depth listed unlike any other sites I've looked at so far.
They look pretty good all round. Four season as well rather than 'summer'/3 season.

Pica-Pica

15,138 posts

98 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Dave. said:
Tread depth when new is no indication of how many miles a tyre will do.
I think we all understand that, but thanks anyway.

leef44

4,949 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th July 2023
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Thanks for this thread. I will bear in mind for future. I had always assumed summer tyres were always 8mm.

I would probably go with Goodyear for the above recommendations. I had Toyo Proxes on my previous car which I really liked the feel but I have to grow up now as a family man and wet handling takes a higher priority so I currently have Continental PremiumContacts on the Suzuki.