RE: Dodge Viper | Spotted
RE: Dodge Viper | Spotted
Monday 17th July 2023

Dodge Viper | Spotted

If there really ain't no replacement for displacement, then only one sports car from the '90s will do...


Back in the 1990s, when a supercar obsession could only be lived out via Top Trumps and books, there was one car that stood out loud and proud as something almost unbelievable - even in the wild west that was late 20th-century supercars. That car was, of course, the Dodge Viper, a Cobra for the '90s that was no less fearsome to drive and has matured to become little less iconic.

There are many reasons for that, from the amazing way it looked to the way it drove, a 25-year production run to a famous Nurburgring lap record attempt. But it was the engine, really, that ensured the Viper legendary status; even 30 years ago, a 488 cubic inch (or 8.0-litre) V10 looked barmy. That used examples are still available to buy in 2023 feels borderline illicit, that there must be some special permit to acquire before owning one or that it must be run on fuel that’s impossibly hard to find. Yet here’s a Viper R/T 10, believed to be one of the very earliest UK cars, showing fewer than 10,000 miles and still with its fantastic three-spoke wheels, available for £10k less than a four-cylinder Emira. With an engine four times the size.

As the combustion engine ultimately meets its maker in new cars, so those memorable powerplants of yesteryear are going to become even more interesting. And they come no more memorable - or more mighty - than the Viper’s V10. Derived from one the Chrysler LA V8s (the Magnum 5.9) and with aluminium block castings designed by Lamborghini (Chrysler owned the Italian company from 1987-1994), the 7,990cc lump produced 406hp at 4,600rpm and 465lb ft at 3,600rpm. They were crazy numbers, unlike any other sports or supercar out there, and made what was a pretty light, back-to-basics roadster into an absolute rocketship. Combine that with the jaw-dropping looks and Dodge had an instant hit on its hands.

Understandably there were fewer in the UK for the Chrysler Viper, buyers over here most likely intimidated by the prospect of a car like this only available with left-hand drive - or tempted by a TVR instead. What times they were when the choice was between Viper and Griffith? Some were brave enough, however, including the first owner of this one, who bought the car in 1994. Surprisingly given the Viper’s notoriety, the advert suggests this is one of only 285 ever built - perhaps that’s to European spec. Whatever, it’s believed to be one of the first five UK cars that came over (believable given US cars were only on sale in 1992) and, more importantly, has lived a very charmed life: it hasn’t yet reached 10,000 miles (showing just over 14,000km), and still features its original tools and weather equipment. The latter of which looks like a little beret on top of an angry sports car.

In 2023 this immaculate example looks like it’s time travelled straight from a Fresh Prince shoot, red paint gleaming, proportions still outrageous, interior still… well, the interior remains a feast of grey plastics and flat surfaces, but they were always like that. You don’t buy a Viper for its driving environment. You buy it to be scared witless and make passers-by gawp.

Given the Viper’s crowd-pulling ability, it’s hard to think of what could do the job better for £70k. Certainly, there won’t be anything of this era, and of this low mileage, that will get close for the money. The alternatives from back in the day, from Ferrari 348 to Honda NSX, just don’t have the same wow factor. Which is probably the polite term for some of the Dodge’s handling characteristics, too. For those PHers also now of a certain heritage, cars like the Viper and the C4 Corvette ZR1 were a gateway into the fascinating world of American sports cars, and will always have a special appeal because of it. Real-life Top Trumps seldom looked this good.


SPECIFICATION | DODGE VIPER R/T 10

Engine: 7,990cc, V10
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 406@4,600rpm
Torque (lb ft): 465@3,600rpm
MPG: 12 best case
CO2: Come again?
Year registered: 1994
Recorded mileage: 14,126km (8,777 miles)
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £69,950

See the original advert here

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yme402

Original Poster:

661 posts

132 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Don’t care it’s agricultural and based on a truck. Just look at it. And I would imagine the sound is just as dramatic as well. Want this quite badly.

Wren-went

1,063 posts

68 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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8L V10.and only 400 bhp , viper as a car has never remotely interested me + 8000cc no doubt it does 3 garages to the mile.


1 American car that can stay in America .

Murph7355

42,001 posts

286 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Wren-went said:
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1 American car that can stay in America .
I suspect the list of those that work well over here would be easier/quicker to compile.

Hired a old Mustang shed for a road trip in California and surround deserts, and had a laugh. It'd be tear inducing here.

Dombilano

1,452 posts

85 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I used to love looking at my 1:18 scale one as a kid, just so different to the usual 90s supercars.

If I saw this in traffic or drive past, I'd smile

CT05 Nose Cone

26,106 posts

257 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Hideous interior, basic, no safety kit, doubtless awful on 90% of roads...and it would still be right at the top of my lottery list.

tril

377 posts

104 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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yme402 said:
Don’t care it’s agricultural and based on a truck. Just look at it. And I would imagine the sound is just as dramatic as well. Want this quite badly.
From what I remember they don't actually sound all that great, as each exhaust is attached to a single bank of 5 cylinders and they don't cross.

But absolutely agree, what an amazing looking thing

Water Fairy

6,619 posts

185 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Looking back now the swollen ankles on these make me twitch

Hereward

5,121 posts

260 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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So pleased these things exist. The numbers are mundane now but back in the day they were mind-boggling.

cerb4.5lee

44,867 posts

210 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I remember a mate of mine telling me that he had a go in one of these, and he said that the attention it got was off the scale. I've always really liked them myself as well, and I used to have a die-cast model of one years ago.

Augustus Windsock

3,799 posts

185 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I remember one of the n’er do well drug dealers turned garage owners had one of these very soon after they came out.
Always liked the thought of these despite them having the build quality of a pair of NHS specs (for those that remember them).
The only thing I don’t like are the wheels, they just don’t look right for a car like this.
And didn’t they have plastic side windows that you zipped in and out? Very odd.
Seem to remember they had no aircon when they first came out, which seems even more odd.

Edited by Augustus Windsock on Monday 17th July 18:16

ambuletz

11,761 posts

211 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Does anyone know if this iteration of dodge viper shares those rear headlights with any other car?

soad

34,684 posts

206 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Used to see one out and about in 1998, looked glorious. Would prefer a later model now.

Red6

661 posts

86 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Absolutely ridiculous.

I can see the appeal, but not for me.

Once saw a Viper GTS in Oban and it almost took up the width of the main road. Even the coaches had to swerve it. Lovely V10 rumble though... and that's about it.

cerb4.5lee

44,867 posts

210 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I've just noticed how low revving it is, and it is almost diesel like really.

S600BSB

8,451 posts

136 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Wren-went said:
8L V10.and only 400 bhp , viper as a car has never remotely interested me + 8000cc no doubt it does 3 garages to the mile.


1 American car that can stay in America .
Agree. Get 400hp from a 2L hatch these days.

Leon R

3,905 posts

126 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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There is a guy on here with a 2000whp Viper if I remember correctly.

There may be some headroom in that V10.

Master Bean

5,227 posts

150 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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S600BSB said:
Wren-went said:
8L V10.and only 400 bhp , viper as a car has never remotely interested me + 8000cc no doubt it does 3 garages to the mile.


1 American car that can stay in America .
Agree. Get 400hp from a 2L hatch these days.
Only took 2 posts for the usual hp per litre moan. 50hp/l is spot on.

munk

269 posts

229 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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I didn't realise until a few months ago that the Viper had 6 stud wheels. Apparently needed to deal with the torque, but demonstrates the agricultural approach to the project. Fabulous cars.

kambites

71,551 posts

251 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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You certainly couldn't call it boring. It's the sort of car which makes me smile when I see one on the road, but which I don't have the slightest desire to drive, let alone own.

Portofino

5,366 posts

221 months

Monday 17th July 2023
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Three spoke alloys….yuck!