Fastest Van To Build Into A Camper With Garage

Fastest Van To Build Into A Camper With Garage

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KTMsm

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28,595 posts

276 months

Tuesday 18th July 2023
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I currently camp and carry motorcycles in my vito traveliner 3.0 auto which has been remapped to 240bhp - it's fantastic but I'd like something bigger

I was thinking of moving to a sprinter or crafter MWB so I could have a permanent garage and bed in the back

However I was shocked that they both seemed to have such poor engine choices these days - what happened to the 3.0 ?

Are there any other vans I should be considering ?

I've thought about the older sprinter with the 3.0 but they have rust issues

Budget 10K max for the base van I was hoping that would buy a 2010 onwards

Or do I just have to resign myself that I won't be able to overtake on A roads

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LeighW

4,897 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Fiat/Ducato with the 2.3 140bhp will be the newest van of that sort of size you'll get for the money. It won't be a ball of fire, but it can't be a coincidence that so many motorhomes are based on them.

I manage to overtake ok in my 1.9 T5 that has 130bhp, you just have to wait for a decent gap! biggrin

KTMsm

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28,595 posts

276 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I came back from Wales last week and the number of people happy to sit at 45ish in an NSL is shocking

I probably overtook 40+ cars and most of those wouldn't have been an option in something much slower, I only saved 20ish minutes but I get frustrated driving so slowly

MDT

573 posts

185 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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the sprinter 4 pot units can be mapped up to the same sort of levels you are looking at in your Traveliner.

https://www.celtictuning.co.uk/services/performanc...

the splinter is lacking the independent rear suspension, and remember that your Traveliner is blessed with falling under the car speed limits, a sprinter is limited to 50 on A roads and only 70 on a Motorway. I have a mapped Vito and it's quite frustrating at times traveling with the traffic and being a good chunk over the limit. grrrr

KTMsm

Original Poster:

28,595 posts

276 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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MDT said:
the sprinter 4 pot units can be mapped up to the same sort of levels you are looking at in your Traveliner.

https://www.celtictuning.co.uk/services/performanc...

the splinter is lacking the independent rear suspension, and remember that your Traveliner is blessed with falling under the car speed limits, a sprinter is limited to 50 on A roads and only 70 on a Motorway. I have a mapped Vito and it's quite frustrating at times traveling with the traffic and being a good chunk over the limit. grrrr
That link is for the 6 cylinder - I can't find any for sale

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Mikeeb

442 posts

131 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Ducato 3.0 but you're saddled with the automated manual

r3g

3,750 posts

37 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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KTMsm said:
I currently camp and carry motorcycles in my vito traveliner 3.0 auto which has been remapped to 240bhp - it's fantastic but I'd like something bigger

I was thinking of moving to a sprinter or crafter MWB so I could have a permanent garage and bed in the back

However I was shocked that they both seemed to have such poor engine choices these days - what happened to the 3.0 ?

Are there any other vans I should be considering ?

I've thought about the older sprinter with the 3.0 but they have rust issues

Budget 10K max for the base van I was hoping that would buy a 2010 onwards

Or do I just have to resign myself that I won't be able to overtake on A roads

frown
They've all got puny engines in them these days. Emissions regs innit. If you want the 3.0 litre lump you're like 15 years old territory or suck it up I'm afraid. If you end up with the 2.3 that's in basically every Fiat these days, avoid the auto. It's absolute cheese and will leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere when it refuses to select a gear. The camper forums are flooded with threads about them. You won't be doing any overtaking in the 2.3 once you've got all your stuff in it, tank of water etc. There's more chance of me overtaking something in my 15 year old Citroen C1 with the aircon on.

Wacky Racer

39,654 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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KTMsm said:
I came back from Wales last week and the number of people happy to sit at 45ish in an NSL is shocking

I probably overtook 40+ cars and most of those wouldn't have been an option in something much slower, I only saved 20ish minutes but I get frustrated driving so slowly
Better 20 minutes in this life, than an eternity in the other. driving

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KTMsm

Original Poster:

28,595 posts

276 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Wacky Racer said:
Better 20 minutes in this life, than an eternity in the other. driving

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30+ years with no accidents - I'm happy with my choices

There is no other life, this is it, so enjoy it while you can

Obison

165 posts

96 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Maybe look at the mk3 master / movano or nissan NV400?
I have a 2015 swb nv400, it's only 110 bhp but can be mapped using factory software to 145 bhp, and on to 175 bhp with a bespoke map.
The 2016+ bi-turbo will go further, and is ulez compliant.

As a side note, I'll be mapping mine to the 145 bhp and I expect it to go just fine at that, it's been fine touring around Scotland etc as standard, so the extra power will be a good bonus.

KTMsm

Original Poster:

28,595 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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I'm wondering about using an ex ambulance

Essentially a sprinter luton with a 3.0 most are auto however I'm pleasantly shocked at the use the NHS gets out of them - many are for sale with in excess of 400,000 miles

Spuffington

1,271 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Personally wouldn’t touch an ex Ambulance. I volunteer with my local Ambulance Trust and when I call for a HOT 1 backup, I can tell you these things arrive very hot & smelly after 20min+ runs cross country at pretty high speeds for a 5t vehicle.

After 400k miles of that stuff, I’d say they’re near the end of what’s manageable.