RE: Prodrive P25 | PH Review
RE: Prodrive P25 | PH Review
Thursday 20th July 2023

Prodrive P25 | PH Review

Hugely thrilling, hugely expensive


It is a strange feeling to be driving what seems to be a venerated icon that you are old enough to have experienced when it was brand new. This is a first for me as I’m too young to have piloted any of the classics of the ‘60s, ‘70s or ‘80s when they were launched. But now the Subaru Impreza seems to have made the leap, I can join the club of ‘there I was’ buffers. It’s certainly hard to argue the Prodrive P25 isn’t a premier league restomod given a price of over half a million quid. Or that it has found a target given the company says it has already sold the full run of 25 cars.

Back when I had more hair, and music was good, I drove both the cars that inspired this one extensively. The first was one of the first Impreza STI 22Bs to reach the country as a grey import – that being the wide-bodied rally rep that Subaru had created itself. Then, in 2000, came Prodrive’s similar take on the same theme, the P1. This combined the WRC-alike two-door shell otherwise not officially imported to the UK along with power and chassis mods plus full European homologation. It was one of the highlight performance cars of that era.

Nostalgia has already pushed the values of both variants much higher than they were when new. The priciest P1 currently in the Classifieds is a 15,000-miler for £65,000; the only 22B is being offered for £213,000. Meaning you could have both for scarcely more than half of the £552,000 starting price of the P25. These are the strange economics of limited production runs of special cars.

My drive in the P25 was a limited one, and conducted entirely on the Millbrook Proving Ground’s dinky little 0.8-mile Outer Handling Circuit. Which, appropriately enough, was designed to replicate the challenge of a demanding British B-road. The experience was enough to get a good sense of the P25’s specialness, as well as what is both familiar and different compared to my memories of those original hot Imprezas. But definitely not a chance to confirm Prodrive’s claims that it can deliver more performance than one of its original rally cars.

The eagle-eyed will have spotted that a fair amount has changed since the P25 prototype was first shown at the Goodwood Festival of Speed last year. The most obvious difference is at the front; the prototype having what was apparently a carbon version of the original STI bumper, the new demonstrator having a new one, still in carbon, but with much bigger apertures. The finished car has also gained new headlights with projectors within them – probably wise given the famed inadequacies of original Impreza lights – with new LED units at the rear as well. It keeps the minimal WRC-style door mirrors and the proto’s bespoke 12-spoke 19-inch alloys with XL brake discs gripped by six-pot AP calipers up front.

The P25 is a restomod rather than a new-built continuation model, meaning that each one will be based on an original two-door STI shell that has been fully rebuilt. Running the MOT history of the demonstrator suggests that it was first imported from Japan in 2014, and also that it had covered 158,817 km when it was tested in June 2020. Since then it has been fully disassembled and lovingly rebuilt, with carbonfibre used for the roof, bootlid, rear wing, wings, bonnets and bumpers. Prodrive claims a weight of just 1,200kg, which looks very svelte by modern standards – although the original 22B was officially only 70kg heavier.

More substantial changes have been made on the other side of the power-to-weight scale. The P25 uses a heavily reworked version of Subaru’s 2.5-litre EJ25, with this having been treated to pretty much a full set of high-end parts – forged pistons, steel connecting rods, carefully ported cylinder heads and a puffy new Garrett turbocharger. This also boasts anti-lag to keep the turbine spinning when off-throttle, although this is only available in what is meant to be the track-only Sport Plus mode. 

Drive goes through a six-speed sequential gearbox and an active electronically controlled centre differential. There is also an Akrapovi? exhaust system with titanium-finish tailpipe tips. Last year Prodrive promised the engine would make at least 400hp, but that has now been upgraded to an even more serious 450hp, this accompanied by ‘at least’ 442lb-ft of torque.

Getting into the cabin is where the P25 starts to seriously diverge from my memories of the original Impreza. Even the fastest first-gen versions had the same low-rent plasticy interior as the rest of the clan, but now almost every surface is covered by either high-grade carbon fibre or Alcantara trim. Prodrive has done some serious work to reorganise components, with a panel of miniature rocker switches on the centre console – this freed up by the lack of a gear lever. There is also a central touchscreen for a Pioneer infotainment system, plus a more impressive reconfigurable digital instrument pack. One detail feels incongruous – there is only one gearchange paddle, this to the right of the steering wheel. It turns out this is how all of the sequential Subaru WRC cars were built.

The P25 starts with a loud, mechanical idle and the sequential transmission’s first gear engages with a big, motorsport-like clunk. Yet from that point onwards it starts to feel much more refined than first impressions suggested. Engine noise is always present, but it doesn’t overwhelm all other sensation as it would in a pure competition car – it’s possible to have a conversation with a passenger when driving without the need for an intercom. Despite the lack of a manual gear lever there is still a clutch pedal, but this is only used to get the car rolling or stopped. Once moving the transmission can be shifted clutchlessly, and I soon get used to the need to pull the solo paddle back to change up, and forwards to shift down.

Dynamically the P25 isn’t quite as playful as I remember the P1 being – thanks to having considerably more more grip. But it is much, much quicker. It takes a little while for boost pressures to build, but one they have the engine pulls strongly and doesn’t need to rev to start delivering serious urge. The P25’s redline is a relatively lowly 6,500rpm; the 22B went to 7750rpm. But there is so much mid-range torque this doesn’t feel like a limiting factor, especially not on a tight circuit. The gearbox delivers lightning changes and – on the faster stuff – fourth gear seems to pull as strongly as third. The brakes bit hard and there was no hint of fade.

Chassis discipline proved very impressive over Millbrook’s bumps and crests, with the combination of what feel like softish springs with no-nonsense Bilstein dampers. Compressions and dips are handled imperiously, body control over bumps and hard direction changes was brilliant. The P25’s enthusiasm to turn feels entirely original, thanks in large part to the lowness of the boxer engine’s centre of gravity. 

Steering is the big difference. Original Imprezas always had a slow patch around the straight ahead, but this has been entirely engineered out in the P25. It feels properly dialled-in, with direct responses and crisp feedback. Traction was impressive across the board, but the the demonstrator was picking up understeer in heavily loaded turns, with a limited ability to neutralise through the old Impreza trick of lifting the throttle to move the handling balance rearwards. To be fair, my turn came at the end of a group of journalists and the demonstrator’s front Bridgestone Potenzas were definitely starting to wilt. Even a quicker passenger ride with pro driver and rally veteran David Higgins had him fighting to get the front end biting.

Is it as quick as an original rally car? Without a WRC99 for back-to-back comparison that’s an impossible question to answer, although one I’d love the chance to return to referee that contest. But it certainly delivers more visceral thrills than any of its famous road-going antecedents. 

Is it worth the huge pricetag? That’s a tougher one, but also a subjective call that Prodrive has effectively answered by selling out the full allocation. In a world where high-end restomods seem able to command equally high-end money it makes at least as much sense as a brand-new lightweight E-Type or DB4. 


Specification | Prodrive P25

Engine: 2457cc flat-four, turbocharged
Gearbox: Six-speed sequential, all-wheel drive
Power: 450hp @ TBCrpm
Torque: >442 lb-ft @ TBCrpm
0-60mph: >3.0-sec (claimed)
Kerbweight: 1200kg
Top speed: TBC
MPG: TBC
CO2: TBC
Price: £552,000

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Master Bean

Original Poster:

4,753 posts

140 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I was looking for the gearstick and realised it has a massive paddle on the right of the steering wheel. Very rally.

mirsgarage

263 posts

39 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Half a million quid for a Subaru. All sold out. What timeline is this..?!

Don't get me wrong, superbly cool cool though.

Terminator X

18,929 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Damn that is a nice car but the price ffs yikes

TX.

Pughmacher

432 posts

63 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I’ve mentioned this in previous articles on this. I just wish for the sake of the sound they didn’t have equal length headers. There isn’t the warble and thump associated with the period cars. Do like the period correct single shift lever though. Serious piece of kit! I always thought that for what is a fairly simple saloon they’ve always looked quite well balanced styling wise and the extra additions of wide arches, scoops, vents and huuuge wings actually struck a really good balance! Truly deserving of its status. Wish I had the cash but even if I did it would be a P1 or slightly romantic me an RB5.

soad

34,200 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Stupid numberplate (POA, get it?).

kris450

716 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I beg your pardon...how much...roflroflrofl

iphonedyou

10,049 posts

177 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Amazing.

The price on something like this doesn't need to make a lot of sense. It is what it is.

Corkys

290 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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So much want.

Bar the aero wing mirrors. And the price👎

GreatScott2016

2,106 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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What a thing but as others have said, an eye watering price for an Impreza, albeit a very special one. I see another special one, Colin McRae's prototype 22B is at Silverstone Auctions next month with a guide price of £400k to £500k! Crazy times, but I'd have both in a heart beat if my numbers came up smile

el romeral

1,847 posts

157 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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At that price, I’d be hoping for a < 3 second 0-60 time, rather than the stated > 3 seconds?

Jon_S_Rally

4,174 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Obviously most people won't be able to get over the price, but the fact they are all sold make that discussion null and void in reality.

Personally, I think I preferred the look of the earlier prototypes, with the standard lights and tamer front bumper, but it's still a mega thing. A huge amount of money, but Subaru restomods probably don't get any better than a bespoke build using moderned and WRC-inspired tech, all designed and put together by the company that took the brand to so much motorsport success. It wouldn't be top of my list of half-million-quid toys, but I wouldn't begrudge anyone for putting it there.

Pughmacher said:
I’ve mentioned this in previous articles on this. I just wish for the sake of the sound they didn’t have equal length headers. There isn’t the warble and thump associated with the period cars. Do like the period correct single shift lever though. Serious piece of kit! I always thought that for what is a fairly simple saloon they’ve always looked quite well balanced styling wise and the extra additions of wide arches, scoops, vents and huuuge wings actually struck a really good balance! Truly deserving of its status. Wish I had the cash but even if I did it would be a P1 or slightly romantic me an RB5.
I suspect that's quite deliberate, both for performance of course, and the fact that the WRC cars used equal length headers too.

Dombilano

1,323 posts

75 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Was expecting 6 figures, not half way to 7

hunt123

282 posts

81 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I'd have to be a billionaire to consider buying that. Looks fantastic imo.

86wasagoodyear

818 posts

116 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Anyone know what model of 'no-nonsense' Bilstein dampers are used in this?

horsemeatscandal

2,120 posts

124 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Is the POA number plate some sort of "haha we are only for rich people" inside joke? And how does it cost this much for a restoration when an MST Escort is <20% of the price for what is essentially a brand new car? Also, for that money I'd want the sticker on the boot lid to be put on straight.

Otherwise, pretty damn cool but I don't like the lights. Interior is very nice.

Nimerino

300 posts

133 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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I realise I’m being superficial, but given that the entire remit of this thing is evoking a certain type of nostalgia for a certain type of customer the point is still valid; the revised bumper and lights look appalling. On their own they moved the needle from ‘want one’ to ‘don’t care’.

The P1 and 22B are absolutely iconic objects for someone like me who’s born in the early 80’s. The prototype did it for me, and the finished article with its Halford-esque bits doesn’t. Knowing that the deposits were placed prior to last year’s reveal, I’d be interested in knowing how buyers feel about the final look.

Edited by Nimerino on Thursday 20th July 08:12

cerb4.5lee

40,089 posts

200 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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The prototype was so much better looking to my eyes, and they've made a bit of a mess of this one in comparison for me(especially from the front).

fantheman80

2,271 posts

69 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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They've done an 'Alfa 4c' on the head lights for me, & the prototype front was much nicer, less 'aftermarket'. Still, hasn't seemed to have put the 25 owners off....

Very glad it exists, I hope an Evo and escort cossie follows soon from someone and my premium bonds come up

bumskins

2,258 posts

35 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Pughmacher said:
I’ve mentioned this in previous articles on this. I just wish for the sake of the sound they didn’t have equal length headers. There isn’t the warble and thump associated with the period cars. Do like the period correct single shift lever though. Serious piece of kit! I always thought that for what is a fairly simple saloon they’ve always looked quite well balanced styling wise and the extra additions of wide arches, scoops, vents and huuuge wings actually struck a really good balance! Truly deserving of its status. Wish I had the cash but even if I did it would be a P1 or slightly romantic me an RB5.
100% agree, a classic Scooby burble and perhaps a 7.5k/8k rpm redline i'd be robbing a bank to try and afford one nuts

As it is with the 2.5 engine and those headlights/taillights, i'll pass.

DJFish

6,006 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Does it have a ‘Bright’ switch?