Parts prices a touch unexpected!!
Parts prices a touch unexpected!!
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Gary C

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15,288 posts

209 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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The wife has had a 3008 for the last 4 years and its in the process of being changed. The new car is delayed and so, with typical timing, the emissions warming came on and gave us 600 miles to sort it out or it would refuse to start (bit of a bugger when your on a 400 mile round trip to see one of the kids and the wife has ~200 miles of work travel this week)

Anyway, thank you to a local company fitting me in for a diagnosis session to find that the AdBlue SCR Nox sensors are on their way out.

So, price. I was thinking £60 a sensor and a couple of hours fitting.

I was right about the fitting, but each sensor is £330 each !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dealer level diagnostics required to setup so thats ~£800 job for two bloody sensors.

frown

Ah well, at least I got my overtime this month and it wasn't the AdBlue tank assembly, apparently thats even more !!!!

stevemcs

10,339 posts

123 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Thats fairly cheap for NOX sensors.

Donbot

4,194 posts

157 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Single make / model forums are your go to if you want to save a few £££.

Honda wanted £250+ for a sensor on my car. £85 incl import taxes from the US.

IIRC they wanted £70 for an aux belt, which is the same you get on a Nissan for £30.

You can spend time or money on these things. But it has put me off taking anything to someone else to sort out.

I don't know if it is your car, but a quick google and you can get a nox sensor for half the cost.

cootuk

918 posts

153 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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A friend took their car to the local mechanic. They had a car in waiting for a headlamp unit for the MOT. Lead time was several weeks, so several weeks for them without a car and hiring one
I did wonder why they didn't get a scrappy unit just to pass the MOT.

Chamon_Lee

3,948 posts

177 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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honestly outside of basic air filter and oil all parts seems to be stupidly expensive.
I have a simple C4 Picasso, Ad blu tank which contains a pump of some sort went bust and a whole tank inc fitting was like 1.5k, then an injector went and that was a few hundred. no car seems to be cheap to run any more.

Luckily thats the only issue I have had in 6 years

ChrisH79

255 posts

44 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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I had my car remapped last year. The guy who did it doesn’t charge a lot for what was more than a quick flash and go job. I got talking to him and his main source of income is fooling ECUs into thinking the NOx sensors are functioning correctly when they’re not. He’s even been into main dealers and cleared fault codes while they waited for parts and then reversed the job when they fitted new ones.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

142 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Yes parts prices - £605 for a headlight switch hahaha 😆 under warranty luckily but I nearly fell off my chair.

It also has the same fault that make many fail, the repair kit failed to work on mine but will have to wait for it to break again to try the repair kit...

Gary C

Original Poster:

15,288 posts

209 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Last diesel car for us.

They used to be so simple and reliable, but I suppose they have never been so efficient and powerful.

Ah well.

Panamax

9,851 posts

64 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Chamon_Lee said:
honestly outside of basic air filter and oil all parts seems to be stupidly expensive.
All that's happened is the "independent suppliers" make copies of parts that sell in big numbers and sell them cheap, so the manufacturers reduce the price of parts through the dealership to compete. Tyres, batteries, discs, pads, bearings.

But the bargain basement independents don't want to make the tricky stuff that sits on the shelf for months so manufacturers continue to charge a price that makes sense for them. Moulded headlamps, difficult or unusual parts, interior trim etc.

If you want cheap motoring the golden rule is to buy a car with a plentiful supply of aftermarket parts. Same applies whether it's a new car or a classic. If you can't get the bits at a sensible price you're up the chuff.

Maserati, Sir? I've never had the guts.

Allegro_Snapon

557 posts

58 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Wait until you've a second hand electric vehicle.
-USB ports (I know old) on stereo no longer work. £360. To upgrade from USB2 to 3.
-After very minor bump parking sensors no longer work and bring up MOT fail warning light on dashboard. Solution, turn off remote parking.
-Map out of date after 2 years needs new subscription. Bought originally with lifetime maps, which didn't know about the new Mersey Crossing, built 4 years before vehicle purchase.
-New pilot exciter required to generate electricity to recharge battery - £12 million.

Wife is never getting an EdF fleet Electric Company car again.

Panamax

9,851 posts

64 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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The classic is built-in Satnav.

New TomTom from Amazon for £100?
or
Official dealer update of the manufacturer's onboard maps etc - how long's a piece of string?

spaximus

4,365 posts

283 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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For things like sensors try to get the OE number and then have a good motor factor cross reference it for you.

Often the sensor fits a cheaper car and they price accordingly. Often something Mercedes for example was the same as a VW part but half the price and that is before you start looking at aftermarket supplies.

Also worth looking at the home market, often German goods are much cheaper but factor in import duties now

Mr Tidy

31,561 posts

157 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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My E90 3 Series got rear-ended a couple of months ago and I got quoted £620 for a new rear bumper cover in primer, so it needed painting and fitting as well!

Insurer of the car that hit me decided it was a Cat N. frown

Still it drives fine so I'm just going to keep it.


Gary C

Original Poster:

15,288 posts

209 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Allegro_Snapon said:
-New pilot exciter required to generate electricity to recharge battery - £12 million.
Eh ?

PMG exciter at £12 million ?

alangla

6,765 posts

211 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Allegro_Snapon said:
Wait until you've a second hand electric vehicle.
-USB ports (I know old) on stereo no longer work. £360. To upgrade from USB2 to 3.
-After very minor bump parking sensors no longer work and bring up MOT fail warning light on dashboard. Solution, turn off remote parking.
-Map out of date after 2 years needs new subscription. Bought originally with lifetime maps, which didn't know about the new Mersey Crossing, built 4 years before vehicle purchase.
-New pilot exciter required to generate electricity to recharge battery - £12 million.

Wife is never getting an EdF fleet Electric Company car again.
As much as I’ve previously slated Skoda on here about the price of brake parts, they do at least (for now) offer free Satnav map updates & detailed DIY instructions for loading onto the car on their website.

996TT02

3,342 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Panamax said:
Maserati, Sir? I've never had the guts.
Apparently quite a lot of Fiat bits incorporated, freely available for 10% of the cost of the M-boxed and taxed version...

FHCNICK

1,376 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Gary C said:
Allegro_Snapon said:
-New pilot exciter required to generate electricity to recharge battery - £12 million.
Eh ?

PMG exciter at £12 million ?
Ooo PMG or Heteropolar though?

Whataguy

1,143 posts

110 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Silliest parts price I've seen is for the plastic wheel trims for a Mk4 Honda Jazz - £160.

That's per wheel, not for all 4.

Probably why the insurance was the same as a same year Polo GTI.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Unfortunately adblue equipped cars are hideously complicated and somewhat fragile. I was looking at some parts for a Sprinter the other day and there are something like 12 sensors in the exhaust. Given the temperature cycles and exposure to moisture/salt/oil/dirt/soot etc etc it's amazing they last as long as they do!

Megaflow

11,552 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Gary C said:
The wife has had a 3008 for the last 4 years and its in the process of being changed. The new car is delayed and so, with typical timing, the emissions warming came on and gave us 600 miles to sort it out or it would refuse to start (bit of a bugger when your on a 400 mile round trip to see one of the kids and the wife has ~200 miles of work travel this week)

Anyway, thank you to a local company fitting me in for a diagnosis session to find that the AdBlue SCR Nox sensors are on their way out.

So, price. I was thinking £60 a sensor and a couple of hours fitting.

I was right about the fitting, but each sensor is £330 each !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dealer level diagnostics required to setup so thats ~£800 job for two bloody sensors.

frown

Ah well, at least I got my overtime this month and it wasn't the AdBlue tank assembly, apparently thats even more !!!!
Last time I got involved with NOx sensors, there was only two companies making them, the first to the market was Continental and they had it to themselves for a while and then, about 5 ish years ago, Bosch came to the market.

I know what we pay for them and I surprised that they are only £330 with aftermarket mark up on then!