RE: Punchier Nissan Z NISMO revealed
RE: Punchier Nissan Z NISMO revealed
Tuesday 1st August 2023

Punchier Nissan Z NISMO revealed

Torture for UK-based Zed fans continues as 420hp range topper arrives


Despite its flaws - big price, wheezy engine - the old 370Z NISMO was a charming old brute. It was an honest, authentic, front-engined, rear-drive sports car, and they tend to be very easy to rub along with. The appeal was simple, the thrills raw, and the fact it looked ace only furthered its cause. Nothing makes 2013 seem even longer ago than remembering the launch of both a 370 and GT-R NISMO that UK customers could buy…

Yep, sorry folks, confirmation of a new Z NISMO sadly hasn’t brought with it an announcement of European availability. Seems like supporters of the brand are going to be waiting quite a bit longer for an interesting Nissan of any kind to be sold here. Still, the NISMO is nothing if not interesting; we'd be remiss not to tell you about a new sports car, especially one with a big V6 and a storied badge, even if you can’t get one.

We’ll get to power in a second - it’s the ‘significant handling enhancements’ for the Zed that are arguably of more interest, given the standard car hasn’t been universally praised for its cornering. So the NISMO gets an increased spring rate, retuned dampers, bespoke anti-roll bars, additional underfloor bracing (increasing torsional rigidity by 2.5 per cent), stiffer bushings for the suspension and steering rack, lighter wheels… a lot of changes, basically. Remember this NISMO arrives not long after the standard car, certainly sooner than the four years between the 370 and its NISMO. Almost like this car is making up for where a regular Z might not be up to snuff.

In addition to the modifications listed above, the NISMO gets Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT600 tyres (just like a GT-R), bigger brake discs with an upgraded pad compound, and an enhanced oil cooler. Throughout the press release Nissan talks of this car’s increased suitability for track driving, and it certainly seems to be going the right way about it. In addition, there was said to be an ‘overarching tuning ethos’ of ‘accurate, ‘one shot’ steering’ for the project, creating a really precise front end to make nailing every apex as simple and confidence-inspiring as possible. That despite the NISMO being the heaviest model of the range, at 3704lb, or 1,680kg.

NISMO Nissans never tend to boast a whole lot more power than standard, even the GT-Rs, and the Zed conforms to type: its 3.0-litre, twin-turbo V6 is just 20hp and 34lb ft stronger than any other, at 420hp and 384lb ft. It's surprisingly little, really, given the potential that must surely be there in a twin-turbo Nissan six, but more than enough to be getting on with. Interestingly, the flagship is only available with the nine-speed auto (non-NISMOs get a six-speed manual as standard); once more, circuit driving is the focus, with the promise of faster shifting thanks to new clutch packs. A new, NISMO-specific Sport+ drive mode should also improve gearbox behaviour on track, said to be so responsive in fact that the driver needn’t use the paddles to ensure the optimum gear.

Anyone familiar with previous NISMOs will recognise the visual overhaul for this Zed. There’s the red accent running around the entire car, a GT-R-influenced rear bumper design, a slightly taller, wider rear spoiler, and the aforementioned Rays rims. Wouldn’t be a fast Nissan without Rays wheels. The new look is said to have benefits in the track, too, with positive downforce claimed thanks to the spoiler, the front canards and the thinner mesh grille. As well as the Stealth Grey seen here, the NISMO Z will be offered in Brilliant Silver, Passion Red TriCoat, Everest White Pearl TriCoat and Black Diamond Pearl.

The NISMO joins the Zed range as part of the 2024 model year, which goes on sale in the autumn and with prices to follow. No doubt it’ll be irritatingly affordable for our US cousins, as so many fast cars over there seem to be - boo. If it makes you feel any better, this March 2020 370Z NISMO has done just 12,000 miles, and looks very good for it. Manual and manual only here, too…


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RudeDog

Original Poster:

1,669 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I'm not someone who is frustrated that this is not available in the UK. I loved my 350Z back in the early-2000s, it was a brilliant return for the Nissan Zeds and an iconic motor. This looks bland in comparison and does nothing for me.

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I absolutely love the look of these.
Personally, I think it's a great example of a modern-looking car whilst still being faithful to the classic Z cars.
Most modern sports cars look so over the top and fussy. This model is simple, but I think it works very well.

A real shame that reviews were so lukewarm. I can't think of any reason you would genuinely buy one over other models.
Also, a shame it's not offered over here!

brillomaster

1,880 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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real shame these arent being sold over here. i think these would do well against the BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra. not much else to compare it to really, maybe a mustang. an MX5 isnt fast enough, and anything with a porsche badge has the engine in a different place (and a higher price)

i loved my old 350z, and seriously considered a secondhand 370z a few months ago (but ended up in a boxster for now)

fantheman80

2,648 posts

79 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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TREMAiNE said:
I absolutely love the look of these.
Personally, I think it's a great example of a modern-looking car whilst still being faithful to the classic Z cars.
I agree the standard car looks good, but is defo towards the more retro look so the Nismo treatment in this case vs the 370 doesn't work for me. I think the engineers knew it too by whacking that dayglo pin striping to make it stand out a bit

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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The old 370z nismo is one of my 'attainable' aspirational cars. Really find this new version a disappointment, styling is rather strange, as if they took the distinctive older model and knocked the character out of it.

bumskins

2,268 posts

45 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Was thinking the Nismo treatment was 'a bit meh' and not really adding anything, however then I looked at that new Polo GTI "25 edition" thing, and realised it could be a whole, whole, whole lot worse...

Dracoro

9,033 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Given it’s a press car, why is the front bumper a different colour to the rest of it?

C5_Steve

8,976 posts

133 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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RudeDog said:
I'm not someone who is frustrated that this is not available in the UK. I loved my 350Z back in the early-2000s, it was a brilliant return for the Nissan Zeds and an iconic motor. This looks bland in comparison and does nothing for me.
I'm the complete opposite. We have a 350Z in the household, I had a 300ZX TT previously. I was gutted this wasn't coming to the UK originally as I think it looks great. Enough retro touches whilst still looking forward.

Would happily have one of these, would have to be white or black though with those accents.

Jon_S_Rally

4,463 posts

118 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Not sure I would describe the engine in the 370Z as "wheezy". Seems a bit harsh. A friend of mine has one as a drift car and I was quite impressed by how much poke it had, and how well it revved.

As for this car, I'm not convinced by the styling. I really liked the 350 and 370, but there is something about this that doesn't quite work. It's not cohesive. I also don't like the silver/grey trim that runs down the C-pillar on this version. It looks really out of place with the rest of the Nismo bits. Perhaps it should have been black to match the skirts and other parts.

Regardless, it is a real shame that it's not sold in Europe. We'd better get used to it though, as I think most manufacturers will largely abandon performance cars in this market. I guess people will be able to import them from Japan at least though.

Moonpie21

614 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Loved my 300zx TT.

I really like this modern look back on old Datsun shapes, I don't need the NISMO bits, this shape in a 2+2 with a targa top as a grand tourer.

My opinion doesn't count though as much as I'd theoretically love one, it wouldn't fit in to my life sadly...

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

77 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Looks great, although a lot of journalists don’t have much to say about the driving dynamics. Still, a power bump should help.

Nimerino

302 posts

143 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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My old 350Z is one of the favourite cars I’ve had. I’ve driven the 370Z extensively as well as had a go in the new Z on a trip to the States a while back. They all major on a similar sort of easily accessible and predictable fun. Their ultimate ability and comfort isn’t anything exceptional, but that isn’t really the point. I’d have one over a Supra.

Which is why offering this car only with the auto seems to be an error in judgement.

dukebox9reg

1,721 posts

178 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Dracoro said:
Given it’s a press car, why is the front bumper a different colour to the rest of it?
I thought that, but if you look down the side of the car, the paint seems a lot darker as well. I think its just the way the light is hitting it.

No I take that back, its a different colour.....

cerb4.5lee

44,834 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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I love a Nissan Z car and the 300ZX twin turbo from back in 1990 is still my favourite of them all(I've only had a passenger ride in one though). So naturally I'm gutted that these aren't available in the UK in any guise.

I've had my 370Z Roadster for over 4 years now though, so I'm content enough with that to be fair. However you have to be in the mood for most NA cars for me(and be willing to rev the backside off them), so an engine with twin turbos like this would give me more fun for more of the time I reckon.

However I shouldn't really moan really, because I do still have the F82 M4 to keep me entertained with its 3.0 twin turbo 6 cylinder engine in fairness though! driving

cerb4.5lee

44,834 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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By the way the Recaro seats look gorgeous in this, and much like they did in the 370Z Nismo too I reckon. smokin

thewarlock

3,285 posts

75 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Is the interior lifted straight out of the 370?
The last few have looked similar but that looks identical in several places

cerb4.5lee

44,834 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Nimerino said:
My old 350Z is one of the favourite cars I’ve had. I’ve driven the 370Z extensively as well as had a go in the new Z on a trip to the States a while back. They all major on a similar sort of easily accessible and predictable fun. Their ultimate ability and comfort isn’t anything exceptional, but that isn’t really the point. I’d have one over a Supra.

Which is why offering this car only with the auto seems to be an error in judgement.
This being only offered as an auto has dissapointed me in some ways too. Although I presume that Nissan have decided to go with the faster car/faster gearbox approach with this. Plus you can still get the standard car with the manual gearbox, and then you could tune the engine up a bit in that if the 3 pedal thing is your preference.

cerb4.5lee

44,834 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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thewarlock said:
Is the interior lifted straight out of the 370?
The last few have looked similar but that looks identical in several places
They are very similar because this is heavily based on the Z34 370Z platform, rather than an out and out new replacement model.

thewarlock

3,285 posts

75 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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cerb4.5lee said:
They are very similar because this is heavily based on the Z34 370Z platform, rather than an out and out new replacement model.
So it is the same interior?
The 370s looked generally like the 350s, but was almost entirely new, same idea, but everything was just slightly different.

They claim this is the same basic platform as the 350 and 370, whilst also claiming the 370 was what 90%+ new parts, 4" shorter wheelbase, wider, etc.

Anyway, probably not for me, turbos and auto boxes are not my thing.

cerb4.5lee

44,834 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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thewarlock said:
So it is the same interior?
The 370s looked generally like the 350s, but was almost entirely new, same idea, but everything was just slightly different.

They claim this is the same basic platform as the 350 and 370, whilst also claiming the 370 was what 90%+ new parts, 4" shorter wheelbase, wider, etc.

Anyway, probably not for me, turbos and auto boxes are not my thing.
Other than the digital dials, it is pretty much identical to the 370Z interior wise yes. The doors/dash are virtually identical, the pedals/handbrake/where the traction control button is etc, are all exactly the same too.

I don't hold that against it though, because I'm just pleased to see another generation of the Nissan Z car in fairness. This is basically a 370Z with a 3.0 V6 twin turbo engine...rather than a 370Z with a 3.7 V6 NA engine basically.