RE: Original Aston 'Project Vantage' concept for sale
RE: Original Aston 'Project Vantage' concept for sale
Monday 7th August 2023

Original Aston 'Project Vantage' concept for sale

The one-off show car that previewed the V12 Vanquish is now 25 years old - and available to buy


Now feels like a good time for Aston Martin. The DBX707 is one of the best SUVs around, the DB12 is a brilliant rework of the old ’11, and the manual-only Valour sold out in a matter of hours. Alonso still just about has third in the F1, too. The history of Aston Martin is one of peaks and troughs, which is partly why it’s so admired; let’s hope this current period is more of a high plateau. Because who doesn’t want to see them do well?

Back in the late 1990s, Aston certainly needed a boost. The DB7 was good given its underpinnings, but desperately needed a more emotive engine than the supercharged six (which it would get with the Vantage of 1999). And while the Vantage continued to get more powerful and caddishly charming (not to mention expensive), there was no hiding its age, either. As the 21st century loomed large, so Aston Martin really needed a flagship befitting of the new age.

Ultimately, the V12 Vanquish would be it - and what a car it was, ushering in a whole new swathe of technology for a range-topping Aston while also looking a million dollars. That look was first previewed as far back as 1998, with a concept that Aston Martin said it wouldn’t build: the Project Vantage. This car was shown at Detroit that January and, such was press and public response to the Ian Callum design, the original decision was soon reneged on. A production version arrived as the Vanquish three years later looking barely any different and, well, the rest is history.

Or not quite. See it’s easy to be a bit blasé about early 21st century Aston now things are looking better, but the success of the VH era really was critical. And the Vanquish set out the stall for that family of cars perfectly: these would be contemporary, progressive, advanced Aston Martins, ones that celebrated that heritage of the brand but weren’t wedded to it. And it was exactly the right path to go down.

Anyway, the car in question. This really is that 1998 concept, as only one was ever made. Drink it in, people, because if the next 25 years are anything like its first quarter of a century, this might not be seen much again. According to the vendor, Project Vantage was shown in public at a 1998 Aston Martin Owners Club race meet and on UK Vanquish Day 16 years later; it was also on display at Newport Pagnell for a bit. But otherwise it seems like this amazing bit of history was tucked away, sold by Aston in 2016 ‘by which time it had suffered from being dismantled for production assessment and 18 years in storage.’ Sad.

But it was comprehensively restored in 2017 and since then has been seen in magazine features and a host of concours events. There’s not going to be a garden party where this isn’t welcome, right? Project Vantage is a one-off, and it previews the car that would come to define one of Aston’s most famous eras. This isn’t just any old concept car.

Or merely some styling buck, either. Described as a ‘fully functional proof of concept vehicle’, Project Vantage can be driven, though it’s not registered for road use and is sold only as a display item. Still, when it can seem like even the rarest cars out there have their equivalent just a few rows down at the secret exotica meet, the appeal of a genuine one-off is plain enough. Especially when it looks this good.

There isn’t a price listed for Project Vantage, though given the provenance - and what looks like a far-reaching restoration - it’s surely going to be hefty. But then as the advert states, this really could be a once-in-a-lifetime chance to buy a unique Aston Martin. Wouldn’t want to miss that…


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Hammersia

Original Poster:

1,564 posts

44 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Hard to spot much difference to the production version externally? Different rear lights (production version looks better) and wing mirrors?

Interior might be better, depending on fit and finish. And,er, it can't be driven on the road. mmm.


nismo48

7,012 posts

236 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Some serious negative camber going on upfront.

SpadeBrigade

856 posts

168 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Vanquish is still such a great looking car IMO. Interior is dated which is to be expected, but the exterior is beautiful. Always dreamt of owning a late Vanquish S with a manual conversion.

Newbie2023

324 posts

39 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I'll ask the obvious questions and hopefully some of the knowledgeable bods on here will know the answers;

Could it potentially be made road legal? I wonder what has prevented it from being so up until this point?

How much of the car is likely to be fully functional? Are there going to be random bits, aircon, wipers for exanple, that just don't function as intended and therefore provide the answer the first question?

MCBrowncoat

1,743 posts

175 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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nismo48 said:
Some serious negative camber going on upfront.
Think that's just the crease in the road. When they've span it round it looks like there's serious negative camber at the rear



I don't really mind the rear light treatment here. And the rest of it is still excellent

swisstoni

23,948 posts

308 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Think it looks better than the production cars. Which you’d expect from the Concept.

WPA

14,668 posts

143 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Newbie2023 said:
I'll ask the obvious questions and hopefully some of the knowledgeable bods on here will know the answers;

Could it potentially be made road legal? I wonder what has prevented it from being so up until this point?

How much of the car is likely to be fully functional? Are there going to be random bits, aircon, wipers for exanple, that just don't function as intended and therefore provide the answer the first question?
I doubt it will ever be road legal, it will not be homologated and the production cars were very different, this was really only a styling buck that moves

Robertb

3,843 posts

267 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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It was last sold in 2016 for £88k, plus VAT...
https://www.bonhams.com/auction/23592/lot/228/1998...

An interesting car for a collector, and would give access to the best shows.

I can't imagine it would make financial sense to convert to road usable spec, given that an actual vanquish is not a fortune by modern standards. In getting type approval, were it possible, it might lose some of its unique prototype aspects.

Robertb

3,843 posts

267 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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swisstoni said:
Think it looks better than the production cars. Which you’d expect from the Concept.
Callum also felt some aspects were lost in the production version, hence his efforts with the Vanquish 25

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,741 posts

127 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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No idea why anyone would want to pay any serious amount of money for this, given the similarities to the finished product, which you can actually drive...

I seem to remember 30 odd years ago being offered a chopped off Lagonda which was a development mule for the Virage and supposedly very collectable - I wonder whatever happened to that....

C5_Steve

8,859 posts

132 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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It's an odd thing. It looks basically identical to the road-going version, so owning it would mean that most wouldn't actually realise what it was surely?

Not sure it'd be worth the expense or work of putting it on the road and the Vanquish has hardly achieved legendary status so I can't see us ever looking back at the concept with any particular reverence.

(don't get time wrong I still love the Vanquish as a car. I'd just have a normal one long before any desire for this)

PAUL.S.

3,242 posts

275 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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WPA said:
Newbie2023 said:
I'll ask the obvious questions and hopefully some of the knowledgeable bods on here will know the answers;

Could it potentially be made road legal? I wonder what has prevented it from being so up until this point?

How much of the car is likely to be fully functional? Are there going to be random bits, aircon, wipers for exanple, that just don't function as intended and therefore provide the answer the first question?
I doubt it will ever be road legal, it will not be homologated and the production cars were very different, this was really only a styling buck that moves
If Edd China can drive around on his sofa on public roads then yes it could be made road legal in the UK as long as it meets the regulations within the SVA guidelines.

Really depends on how well put together its underpinnings are.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

186 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Agree with others no point as a road car still nice but not supernice so it may make 100k or so but its not that specail v a road legal one plus peter stevens can restomod one for you i recall

cko

30 posts

163 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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In my view this was spot on the version Callum should have done as restomod vs vanquish 25.
Bodywork and interior / leather just spot on

Turbobanana

8,363 posts

230 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
No idea why anyone would want to pay any serious amount of money for this, given the similarities to the finished product, which you can actually drive...

I seem to remember 30 odd years ago being offered a chopped off Lagonda which was a development mule for the Virage and supposedly very collectable - I wonder whatever happened to that....
https://astonmartins.com/car/virage-prototypes-dp2...

kuiper

212 posts

156 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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The interior of this concept shows what could have been imho - looks lovely. The actual AM interiors we got for the Vantage/DB9 etc were always the worst part of the car, even when brand spanking fresh.

PerfectDark

49 posts

136 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
No idea why anyone would want to pay any serious amount of money for this, given the similarities to the finished product, which you can actually drive...

I seem to remember 30 odd years ago being offered a chopped off Lagonda which was a development mule for the Virage and supposedly very collectable - I wonder whatever happened to that....
If you're feeling suitably flush it's for sale at the Goodwood Revival auction in September - guided at £250-350k!

Mark_Blanchard

1,042 posts

284 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I saw this car in Brunei in 1998. I think Prince Jefri bought it, it was driving in Jerudong to the RBPC 5 car parks.

My jaw was on the floor when I saw it.

Vee12V

1,410 posts

189 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Robertb said:
swisstoni said:
Think it looks better than the production cars. Which you’d expect from the Concept.
Callum also felt some aspects were lost in the production version, hence his efforts with the Vanquish 25
Which - a least to my eyes - looks worse than the original.

WPA

14,668 posts

143 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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PAUL.S. said:
WPA said:
Newbie2023 said:
I'll ask the obvious questions and hopefully some of the knowledgeable bods on here will know the answers;

Could it potentially be made road legal? I wonder what has prevented it from being so up until this point?

How much of the car is likely to be fully functional? Are there going to be random bits, aircon, wipers for exanple, that just don't function as intended and therefore provide the answer the first question?
I doubt it will ever be road legal, it will not be homologated and the production cars were very different, this was really only a styling buck that moves
If Edd China can drive around on his sofa on public roads then yes it could be made road legal in the UK as long as it meets the regulations within the SVA guidelines.

Really depends on how well put together its underpinnings are.
Do you not think that if it could be made road legal someone would have already done that, it is a styling buck and was never designed to be driven.

From the feature I read it was in basic terms cobbled together.