UK's electoral register hacked
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Louis Balfour

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28,176 posts

244 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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And once they found out, the authorities only took ten short months to let everyone know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66441010


s1962a

7,187 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Is it the complete register that got hacked? So basically all our personal details. aholes.

TonyRPH

13,445 posts

190 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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The amount of data exposed here is shocking. And the hackers had access to their systems for over a year!!

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/privacy-pol...

This is quite far reaching IMHO

Personal data affected by this incident:

Personal data contained in email system of the Commission:

Name, first name and surname.
Email addresses (personal and/or business).
Home address if included in a webform or email.
Contact telephone number (personal and/or business).
Content of the webform and email that may contain personal data.
Any personal images sent to the Commission.
Personal data contained in Electoral Register entries:
Name, first name and surname
Home address in register entries
Date on which a person achieves voting age that year.

Electoral Register data not held by the Commission:

[/b]Anonymous registrations[b]

Address of overseas electors registered outside of the UK.


Chimune

3,965 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Chap on r4 at 1pm today:

The data leaked is the electoral roll register - which is publicly available anyway.

But it also contains the details of those who opted out of the public register. Thats vaulable and previously non-public data.

wombleh

2,276 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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“The watchdog has warned people to watch out for unauthorised use of their data.”

Not sure that’s particular straight forward!



Edited by wombleh on Tuesday 8th August 17:01

i4got

5,921 posts

100 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Chimune said:
Chap on r4 at 1pm today:

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But it also contains the details of those who opted out of the public register. Thats vaulable and previously non-public data.
Non public - but is available at a cost to pretty much any company that wants it.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
And once they found out, the authorities only took ten short months to let everyone know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66441010
Prosecutions/action? Na, course not rolleyes

Gareth79

8,692 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Chimune said:
Chap on r4 at 1pm today:

The data leaked is the electoral roll register - which is publicly available anyway.

But it also contains the details of those who opted out of the public register. Thats vaulable and previously non-public data.
The publicly available register is still not public/open data, you can't (as far as I know) download it freely, you need to pay a fair few £.

i4got said:
Chimune said:
Chap on r4 at 1pm today:

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But it also contains the details of those who opted out of the public register. Thats vaulable and previously non-public data.
Non public - but is available at a cost to pretty much any company that wants it.
I thought it was only available to bona fide credit reference and fraud checking organisations?


sugerbear

6,268 posts

180 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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I am sure that a company like Cambridge Analytics would never dream of using this data to swing an election in 2024/2025.

Never.

turbobloke

115,491 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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sugerbear said:
I am sure that a company like Cambridge Analytics would never dream of using this data to swing an election in 2024/2025.

Never.
Starmer's not that desperate yet, surely.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

66 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Southerner said:
Prosecutions/action? Na, course not rolleyes
You misunderstand: lessons will be learned.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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‘No win, no fee’ class action to be expected in a few years’ time?! I bloody hope so!

bitchstewie

63,585 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Unless I've misunderstood and assuming you haven't literally sent them specific personal information it reads as if the stuff taken is fairly low level info like name and address.

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

71 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Southerner said:
Louis Balfour said:
And once they found out, the authorities only took ten short months to let everyone know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66441010
Prosecutions/action? Na, course not rolleyes
Who do you want to prosecute? The organisation that's been broken into? That's like prosecuting a bank for being robbed.

bigpriest

2,267 posts

152 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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E63eeeeee... said:
Southerner said:
Louis Balfour said:
And once they found out, the authorities only took ten short months to let everyone know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66441010
Prosecutions/action? Na, course not rolleyes
Who do you want to prosecute? The organisation that's been broken into? That's like prosecuting a bank for being robbed.
If the bank fitted a front door they bought cheap from a bloke down the pub then yes.

untakenname

5,247 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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4% of turnover is the maximum fine for private companies, imo the heads of the electoral commision should have to answer as it has eroded trust by the electorate and thus threatens the cornerstone of democracy.

E63eeeeee...

5,766 posts

71 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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bigpriest said:
E63eeeeee... said:
Southerner said:
Louis Balfour said:
And once they found out, the authorities only took ten short months to let everyone know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66441010
Prosecutions/action? Na, course not rolleyes
Who do you want to prosecute? The organisation that's been broken into? That's like prosecuting a bank for being robbed.
If the bank fitted a front door they bought cheap from a bloke down the pub then yes.
I'm not sure many banks get robbed by people knocking down the front door. Either way, I can't tell from the article if that's a plausible analogy for what happened here. Do you know more about this?

wombleh

2,276 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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ICO has decided that instead of fining govt organisations, they’ll just write them a nasty letter telling them how much they would have been fined:
https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news...

From reading the ICO court cases, private sector gets nailed to the wall for any divergence from a very strict (and arguably unrealistic) view of how security should be done. So yes they could take action against the victims, in theory only if negligent, but in reality most orgs could get fined if they leaked PII

Edited by wombleh on Tuesday 8th August 19:04

Gareth79

8,692 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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bhstewie said:
Unless I've misunderstood and assuming you haven't literally sent them specific personal information it reads as if the stuff taken is fairly low level info like name and address.
It's fairly low level, but it's a comprehensive and up-to-date list of almost every adult in the UK, grouped by specific address (ie. people who live with each other). I don't think there has been such a huge leak of such accurate/official data before in the UK.

For example a person with the database would instantly and immediately know the names of people living in, for example, the St George's Hill estate.

Grumps.

16,655 posts

58 months

Tuesday 8th August 2023
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Can’t say I’m bothered, considering it’s all out there anyway in one form or another.