Porsche "blinkering"?
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Wondering if its just me or if its an actual thing?
Lots of threads with Porsche as the subject matter and it seems as if component failures, big maintenance / repair bills seem to be far more readily accepted if its a Porsche than any other brand
If a Lotus, TVR, Aston (amongst others) threw up the kind of bills / failures you see reported on Porsches it would be a case of "just thrown together, poor quality, its because its not German" etc but the same on a Porsche and it seems to be accepted as simply part and parcel of ownership
I like Porsches no more or less than other brands but they do seem to get an easier ride than most other brands on the reliability / maintenance / repair side of things
Lots of threads with Porsche as the subject matter and it seems as if component failures, big maintenance / repair bills seem to be far more readily accepted if its a Porsche than any other brand
If a Lotus, TVR, Aston (amongst others) threw up the kind of bills / failures you see reported on Porsches it would be a case of "just thrown together, poor quality, its because its not German" etc but the same on a Porsche and it seems to be accepted as simply part and parcel of ownership
I like Porsches no more or less than other brands but they do seem to get an easier ride than most other brands on the reliability / maintenance / repair side of things
i think you'd get equally big bills from BMW, Audi, any JLR product... McLarens are supposed to be prestige and they break down all the time as well. Bentleys too.
i dont think porsche break down much more than a lot of other brands, but when they do, they have big bills as porsches are expensive cars.
i dont think porsche break down much more than a lot of other brands, but when they do, they have big bills as porsches are expensive cars.
Not rocket science when you compare the number of cars sold with your example manufacturers.
As a percentage of vehicles sold Porsche reliability is at least as good as any other manufacturer I would have thought.
They're in a different league to Lotus and as for TVR....
I do Euro tours every year and they're dominated by Porsche because they can be driven hard all day and not break. TVR's are banned from our trips because we got fed up of them breaking and I've personally had to push Lotus (and Ferraris for that matter) that can't take the pace, never a Porsche.
Of course they're not perfect, but you're bound to hear more about significant bills purely as a function of the number sold.
As a percentage of vehicles sold Porsche reliability is at least as good as any other manufacturer I would have thought.
They're in a different league to Lotus and as for TVR....
I do Euro tours every year and they're dominated by Porsche because they can be driven hard all day and not break. TVR's are banned from our trips because we got fed up of them breaking and I've personally had to push Lotus (and Ferraris for that matter) that can't take the pace, never a Porsche.
Of course they're not perfect, but you're bound to hear more about significant bills purely as a function of the number sold.
Andy665 said:
Wondering if its just me or if its an actual thing?
Lots of threads with Porsche as the subject matter and it seems as if component failures, big maintenance / repair bills seem to be far more readily accepted if its a Porsche than any other brand
If a Lotus, TVR, Aston (amongst others) threw up the kind of bills / failures you see reported on Porsches it would be a case of "just thrown together, poor quality, its because its not German" etc but the same on a Porsche and it seems to be accepted as simply part and parcel of ownership
I like Porsches no more or less than other brands but they do seem to get an easier ride than most other brands on the reliability / maintenance / repair side of things
You've clearly not read many Land Rover threads...Lots of threads with Porsche as the subject matter and it seems as if component failures, big maintenance / repair bills seem to be far more readily accepted if its a Porsche than any other brand
If a Lotus, TVR, Aston (amongst others) threw up the kind of bills / failures you see reported on Porsches it would be a case of "just thrown together, poor quality, its because its not German" etc but the same on a Porsche and it seems to be accepted as simply part and parcel of ownership
I like Porsches no more or less than other brands but they do seem to get an easier ride than most other brands on the reliability / maintenance / repair side of things
I don't think the OP is saying there's a lack of big bills, more that when they appear they seem to be more tolerated/accepted. I think in part it's due to this:
Yes, Porsche bills when they come can be pretty hefty but the point is they don't come along all that often hence them being viewed as OK-ish.
Mach said:
I do Euro tours every year and they're dominated by Porsche because they can be driven hard all day and not break.
If you've done a bunch of Euro hoons or track days and get one big bill you're likely to accept it and think if you drove car X/Y/Z you'd have paid 5 times that price by now on loads of repairs. I know I would.Yes, Porsche bills when they come can be pretty hefty but the point is they don't come along all that often hence them being viewed as OK-ish.
I have had a lot of Porsches and no horror stores though all cars were new.
A lot of the cost is in over maintenance of which I am guilty ; I also only use dealers.
The hugest mileage and heaviest use was a Cayenne S which I sold with 300,000km on it and is still around with 340,000. It had a couple of big bills (camshaft lifters at 220,000, a/c compressor and exhaust at about 270k or so.
The GT3s are fairly bulletproof and driven hard but over low mileages. Apart from consumables like tires I have only had a clutch replacement on my old 997.1RS recently at 44,000 km; the 991/992s have been perfect.
Panamera Turbo is good but had electrical glitches when new and took a few visits to dealer-warranty repair and since flawless with 50,000km on it.
Overall daily good and not much different from others. The major difference for me is toughness. You can drive a GT car till you run out of tires on a track and it will be just fine.
A lot of the cost is in over maintenance of which I am guilty ; I also only use dealers.
The hugest mileage and heaviest use was a Cayenne S which I sold with 300,000km on it and is still around with 340,000. It had a couple of big bills (camshaft lifters at 220,000, a/c compressor and exhaust at about 270k or so.
The GT3s are fairly bulletproof and driven hard but over low mileages. Apart from consumables like tires I have only had a clutch replacement on my old 997.1RS recently at 44,000 km; the 991/992s have been perfect.
Panamera Turbo is good but had electrical glitches when new and took a few visits to dealer-warranty repair and since flawless with 50,000km on it.
Overall daily good and not much different from others. The major difference for me is toughness. You can drive a GT car till you run out of tires on a track and it will be just fine.
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