RE: 800hp Mustang GTD targets Nurburgring domination
RE: 800hp Mustang GTD targets Nurburgring domination
Saturday 19th August 2023

800hp Mustang GTD targets Nurburgring domination

We've seen powerful Ford Mustangs before - but not like this


The new Ford Mustang was already shaping up pretty nicely, what with its standard manual gearbox and 500hp Dark Horse flagship on offer. Now it looks about a million times more awesome with confirmation of this, the GTD. Or, as Ford CEO Jim Farley calls it, “the very best of Ford Motor Company and what our team needs to do every day.” You can say that again.

We must begin with how this GTD (named after the IMSA class the new GT3 race car will compete in) looks, because it verges on the unbelievable. Here is a Ford Mustang with 325-section front tyres (!) and 345-section rears, on magnesium wheels, that will be built in 2025. (The tracks themselves are four inches wider than a Mustang GT.) Typically, moreover, you take the boss’s claims about a “race car for the road” with a heavy pinch of salt, but this is aggressive enough to make something like an old GT4 car look a bit timid.

Most of the body is carbon fibre, with a heavy focus on aero: see that front splitter and chiselled vents for the bonnet and wings, plus a rear spoiler to rival a GT3 RS for silliness, sprouting from the C-pillar like nothing we’ve even seen on a Mustang before. There’s going to be an optional aero package that introduces both an undertray and ‘technology that would be illegal in racing’ (cool) including hydraulically controlled front flaps that work in conjunction with that epic (and active) rear tea tray for best aero balance. Interestingly, the GTD team and the folk designing the GT3 racer worked together to share solutions between the two, which seems believable looking at this thing. There are very serious track cars, it seems - and then there’s the GTD.

That’s not even the most extreme bit, because the boot is now crammed full of semi-active suspension, the control system for the hydraulic elements, and a transaxle cooling system. The bootlid itself is now just a ‘race-inspired cover’, one with two funnels to scoop air off the back glass and into the heat exchangers.

The suspension sounds predictably next level, too. For starters, it employs Multimatic’s lauded DSSV spool valve dampers (also used in the Assetto Fiorano track package on a Ferrari SF90). Two settings for road and track can adjust both spring rate and ride height, the most serious setting dropping the GTD 40mm closer to the road. Ford describes the semi-active suspension as ‘state of the art’, with a short-long arm set-up upfront to enhance lateral stiffness and a pushrod arrangement out back. In a Mustang! Wasn’t so long ago an independent rear axle was newsworthy, now here we have one with inboard Multimatic dampers and coilover springs horizontally arranged across the back in a motorsport-style subframe. Crikey. Ford says the ‘architecture creates a motion ratio from pushrod to damper of 1:1 so the car responds precisely to track conditions.’

It says an awful lot about this GTD that we’re almost 500 words into a Mustang news story and the engine hasn’t been mentioned once. It’s predictably mighty: Ford is aiming for 800hp from the supercharged Voodoo V8, which seems achievable given the 5.2 was rated at 760hp in the old GT500. It’s going to be dry-sumped, rev beyond 7,500, and a titanium exhaust will be offered. The sound is described as ‘symphonic’ - you bet. Power reaches those giant rear Michelins via a carbon driveshaft - again, in a Mustang! - and an eight-speed dual-clutch mounted in a transaxle, with almost 50:50 weight distribution promised. To help drivers get the most out of the performance, the GTD will be fitted with Ford’s Variable Traction Control, with its threshold adjustable by steering wheel buttons. And if all else fails, the Brembo carbon ceramics are said to be ‘massive’.

The result of all this will be ‘incredible lap times at some of the world’s most hellish tracks’, Ford making no bones about its desire to upset the establishment. The stated aim is to go under seven minutes at the Nordschleife (a GT3 RS did 6:49), which is out of this world for a front-engined Ford. But then this really is like nothing else we’ve ever seen from the Blue Oval. Boss Farley again: “Mustang GTD shatters every preconceived notion of a supercar… “This is a new approach for us. We didn’t engineer a road car for the track, we created a race car for the road. Mustang GTD takes racing technology from our Mustang GT3 race car, wraps it in a carbon fibre Mustang body and unleashes it for the street.”

They really are going to make it, too - this isn’t a mere vision concept to placate the gearheads while Ford cracks on with electrification. Mustangs will leave Flat Rock headed for Canada, where Multimatic will handcraft a monster alongside Ford Performance. Don’t expect there to be very many, do expect to pay around $300k, and get counting down the days to early 2025 - this could be extraordinary.


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Maccmike8

Original Poster:

1,608 posts

84 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Thats going to sound epic.

ChrisCh86

1,128 posts

74 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Not a looker is it?

I'm glad that it exists, but even if I had the cash, I think I'd rather spend it elsewhere.

siwhit

100 posts

211 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Love it, even though they've nicked the front wings from a MG SV

Mr E

23,066 posts

289 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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siwhit said:
Love it, even though they've nicked the front wings from a MG SV
It’s all I can see.

P1Fanatic

1,922 posts

43 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Targets Nurburgring domination and in the same statement mentions looking for a sub 7m lap time? So they only want to match times from 2015??

Geoffcapes

1,299 posts

194 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Why'd they name it after a diesel?

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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ChrisCh86 said:
Not a looker is it?
Looks less of a bodge job than a 992 GT3RS to be honest, be interested to see if this GTD will get numberplates or if it's going to be some track-only special.

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Geoffcapes said:
Why'd they name it after a diesel?
ADHD preclude you from making it past the first paragraph of the article or something...? eek

The Article above in only the second paragraph said:
"We must begin with how this GTD (named after the IMSA class the new GT3 race car will compete in) looks, because it verges on the unbelievable."
rofl

corcoran

690 posts

304 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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.. bless...

J4CKO

46,839 posts

230 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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CKY said:
Geoffcapes said:
Why'd they name it after a diesel?
ADHD preclude you from making it past the first paragraph of the article or something...? eek

The Article above in only the second paragraph said:
"We must begin with how this GTD (named after the IMSA class the new GT3 race car will compete in) looks, because it verges on the unbelievable."
rofl
Rather rude !

It does say why but the real answer is GTD wont have any diesel connotations, or as many in the states where as over here is say Peugeot 405 diesel rather than Mustang.

And anyway its called the GTD, not the GT3 after the racing class, so the observation is valid, they should have called it the GT3 which would stop folk putting diesel in it by mistake biggrin

RB Will

10,857 posts

270 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Would hope it would crack the 6's. The old Vipers were not far off and this has more tech, aero, new tyres, track changes, and a heap more power.

P1Fanatic

1,922 posts

43 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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J4CKO said:
And anyway its called the GTD, not the GT3 after the racing class, so the observation is valid, they should have called it the GT3 which would stop folk putting diesel in it by mistake biggrin
GTD is the class so the name is correct. US class similar to GT3:

Grand Touring classes:

GT Daytona Pro (GTD Pro): A class that utilizes the FIA GT3 specifications that replaced the GTLM class starting in the 2022 Season. No driver class restriction in the GTD Pro class.

GT Daytona Pro-AM (GTD): A class since 2016 that uses same specification cars as GTD Pro, but at least 1 silver or bronze driver must be in a team. And more than 1 platinum driver in a team is prohibited.



T_S_M

1,362 posts

213 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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That looks absolutely outrageous, in a good way! For some reason this appeals far more than a 992 GT3RS.

Also, with an 800bhp supercharged V8, carbon body, tubular read-end with push-rod suspension and limited numbers... $300k seems like a bit of a bargain (relatively)?

5lab

1,921 posts

226 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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if its "only" as quick as a gt3rs and costs $60k more, I can't see it selling in huge numbers. That said, its got 300bhp more, a carbon body, much more tyre (325mm at the front, 345mm at the rear) and at least as much trick stuff going on, I'd hope its significantly quicker. its kinda a ford gt, with a bigger engine, in another bodyshell.

its interesting they're not offering carbon wheels when they're offered on the regular car

Edited by 5lab on Friday 18th August 10:21

georgeyboy12345

4,619 posts

65 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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lol GTD. Sorry can’t get past that.

fantheman80

2,618 posts

79 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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georgeyboy12345 said:
lol GTD. Sorry can’t get past that.
Yep, don't care if it is the class name, over here that's the name given to the company car drivers who don't want to pay for a GTi

JJJ.

5,566 posts

45 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Looks the business.The spec is really impressive and all better that it's not another German. Well done Ford.

leglessAlex

7,339 posts

171 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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I think it’s ace. Yeah, it looks a bit suspect and it’s too expensive, but it’s Ford taking an in house attempt at a seriously fast Nurburgring time, and I think that’s cool as hell.

RB Will

10,857 posts

270 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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5lab said:
if its "only" as quick as a gt3rs and costs $60k more,

Edited by 5lab on Friday 18th August 10:21
That is the GT3RS list price mind, none available at list and they seem to be selling for £200k+ over at the moment so if you can get the Ford it may well be £150-200k cheaper

CaptainSensib1e

1,528 posts

251 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Hats off to Ford for building something like this in this day and age. Personally I love the look but appreciate it won't be to everyone's taste. I bet Shmee will be ordering one