RE: All-new Mercedes-AMG GT keeps V8, adds seats
RE: All-new Mercedes-AMG GT keeps V8, adds seats
Sunday 20th August 2023

All-new Mercedes-AMG GT keeps V8, adds seats

AMG asked customers what they wanted from a new GT - a bigger, comfier 911 rival it is...


From impressive if not incredible beginnings, the original AMG GT turned into something genuinely brilliant. The GT R Pro must rank as one of AMG’s greatest driver’s cars ever, and the Black Series was so fast around the Nordschleife it compelled Porsche to give the GT2 RS a Manthey overhaul to reclaim its ‘ring record. Now it’s time for the second generation. We’ve already had a preview of sorts with the latest AMG SL, a car that shares much with the GT - and given that car often feels like it wants to be a hunkered down hard top sports car rather than a laid-back drop top, hopes are high for the coupe.

The AMG was always a convenient rival for the Porsche 911 given its price and performance; now it seems hell-bent on bettering its rear-engined rival. The inclusion of tiny rear seats and a focus on usability this time around are perhaps the clearest giveaways. The Porsche continues to be overwhelmingly popular because it places so few demands on its driver and is remarkably practical for a two-door sports car. Mercedes-AMG appears to have zeroed in on this aspect (or, to put it another way, is evidence of it “responding to the wishes of our customers” according to Michael Schiebe, Chairman of Mercedes-AMG’s board) thereby creating a 2+2 with ‘increased suitability for everyday use’.  There’s even hands-free boot access. If that’s the sports car AMG customers want to buy, that’s the sports car AMG is going to make…

Fret not, however, as there’s lots of stuff to excite proper AMG enthusiasts as well. There’s the V8, for starters, offered in the same levels of tune as the SL, meaning a 476hp GT 55 and a 585hp GT 63. Presumably more powerful variants will follow in time, given the last model bowed out with 730hp and this 4.0-litre V8 can be hybridised to more than 800hp, but they’re more than enough to be getting on with from launch. The nine-speed MCT is standard on both models, as is the fully variable 4Matic+ all-wheel drive, rear-axle steering, active anti-roll, active aero and a locking rear diff - this isn’t simply an AMG for poseurs. Not many of them are now, truth be told.

Indeed, the level of effort invested in making this GT as good to drive as possible seems impressive. It’s easy to be distracted by the giant screen or all the modes or ‘numerous connectivity services’, but there’s some proper hardware in this AMG as well. It keeps the SL’s basic platform, for starters, with aluminium, steel, magnesium and fibre composite used to make it as rigid and light as possible. Every suspension link and knuckle, plus the wheel carriers, are forged aluminium, to save unsprung weight; likewise, the composite brake discs are said to shave further precious kilos.

Elsewhere, high camber and toe rigidity should help with both cornering speed and feel. There’s bracing underneath to make the GT as torsionally stiff as possible, too. The AMG Active Ride Control dampers now feature two hydraulic connections on the compression and rebound side. Mercedes says that the ‘intelligent hydraulic interconnection of the four spring struts and the pressure regulation of the pump and switching valves allow a very wide roll spring rate with reduced rolling movements at the same time’. Which sounds like it has targeted superior comfort alongside higher performance, which is good. And there’s a nose lift now.

The new GT is also said to boast a ‘perfectly balanced relationship between low air resistance and reduced lift’, helped by the active Airpanel up front (which opens up slats where required), the retractable rear spoiler and some clever, patented underbody elements that create a Venturi effect. And if all that’s not enough, there’s an optional aero package with some fixed bits that further reduces lift and increases downforce. Plus it’ll lend the styling a bit more oomph, no doubt. Think where the last GT began and finished up, too - it’s only going to get punchier from here. And it looks pretty damn good to start with. For what it’s worth, special attention is paid by AMG to the long wheelbase, short overhangs, and steeply raked windscreen, said to make the GT look ‘compact and powerful’.

AMG says the interior is ‘hyper analogue’, bringing together ‘analogue geometry and the digital world’. Or, in layman’s terms, that whacking great portrait touchscreen with some lovely leather. Notable as well are the AMG performance wheel familiar from the SL, sports seats with integrated headrests (performance chairs are an option), and the AMG Track Pace data logger. Which feels of limited use in a 2+2 everyday sports car, but you never know. Those that don’t know the AMG Dynamic Select settings off by heart yet are reminded that they are Slippery, Comfort, Sport, Sport+, Individual and Race.

Herr Schiebe again: “The new AMG GT Coupe combines highly dynamic driving characteristics and distinctive sportiness with a high level of everyday comfort. Our new GT is clearly the top-of-the-line product in our diversified portfolio and is therefore not only AMG's youngest brand shaper, but also a clear commitment to the sports car made in Affalterbach.” Which is encouraging, really, given Mercedes’ focus of late has seemingly been on electric SUVs for anyone and everyone. Having debuted as part of Monterey Car Week - no better place to make your new sports car look great - the new AMG GT is slated for production imminently. Just in time for the update of the 911. Funny that. 


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Cacatous

Original Poster:

3,173 posts

303 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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It's like a grown up Subaru BRZ


anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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As if someone asked Mercedes to create their version of the 911.


rog007

5,831 posts

254 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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GLS said:
As if someone asked Mercedes to create their version of the 911.
+1

IMI A

9,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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The old one was 1700kgs with fuel which put me off. This looks heavier. Also no manual. If I want a heavy auto. I'll buy an SUV!

tescorank

2,385 posts

261 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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A porker or JLR one with lots of dashboard messages…ssssch I didn’t say that.

GreatScott2016

2,536 posts

118 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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I'm Mr Negative when it comes to all things Merc. Never liked the look of the hatchbacks, saloons, estates, etc ... granted, some of the engines are ok smile . That, however, doesn't look too bad to my eyes. Well done Merc!

Filibuster

3,405 posts

245 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Is that a light grey headliner??? yuck
Looks like the interior of a C180 CDI…

I really liked the last GT, but I’d opt for the 911 with the new one instead.

Chubbyross

4,995 posts

115 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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I’m sure it’s fabulous to drive but the design hurts my eyes. It’s almost as if you’ve just asked AI to produce a mix of a 911, Mustang and Toyota. It’s neither one thing nor another.

Corkys

303 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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It looks nice like the old one did. Shame they put that touch screen in the centre of the dashboard. Merc do crap interiors now.

whp1983

1,387 posts

169 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Rear end is very 911…

Initially a much more cohesive design but lacks distinction and brutality of the last one.

cerb4.5lee

44,819 posts

210 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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It is interesting to see the swap to a 2+2 and 4WD versus the previous generation I reckon(this is basically a hard top SL to me now). I guess that does open up its appeal more though.

From the photos I prefer the rearend on the previous gen, but it will be interesting to see what it looks like in the metal though.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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All that about the back seats and not a single pic of them, wonder if they’re less or more compromised than a 911’s.

Mysstree

547 posts

76 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Exterior and engine bay look good, interior to chintzy, chav and fussy.

cib24

1,127 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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I don’t understand this. MB clearly wanted to cut costs and just re-use the SL platform they created.

mikebradford

3,156 posts

175 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Obviously just a reworked hardtop version of the new SL.
However it's very 911 from the rear.
The previous GT did look original, and as much as this looks great it smacks of copying the competition.

Likely very heavy as based on SL underpinings so not likely to challenge the 911 dynamically

Baddie

807 posts

247 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Looks like the engineers keep raising the bar in all the right areas (camber/toe rigidity and clever dampers).

Meanwhile the marketing departments keep raising it too; “hyper-analogue” interior is a new high-mark of saying nothing and insulting your intelligence at the same time.

Especially if it means they still haven’t kept knobs for volume and HVAC.

Mouse Rat

2,102 posts

122 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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There aren't many modern sports cars that do it for me, but the AMG GT does. Ive been looking at them for a while and its one of the very few cars I would swap the Tuscan for.
Although the power to weight ratio is less, its all about the engine in its a front mid engine layout. It also a stunner inside and out, pretty and aggressive and importantly fun at low speeds.

The new interior design just makes it look like a c class.



Don1

16,830 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Hopefully the price of the old ones will drop a little more now… <rubs hands together>

cerb4.5lee

44,819 posts

210 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Mouse Rat said:
There aren't many modern sports cars that do it for me, but the AMG GT does. Ive been looking at them for a while and its one of the very few cars I would swap the Tuscan for.
Although the power to weight ratio is less, its all about the engine in its a front mid engine layout. It also a stunner inside and out, pretty and aggressive and importantly fun at low speeds.
I absolutely love the original AMG GT too. This looks really nice as well I reckon. The great thing with this new one is that I could squeeze my 2 kids in with me if I wanted to. I love the side profile of this a lot, and I have a lot of want for this.

Plus personally I'd take this over the 911 because of the V8 engine. smokin

I like 6 cylinder engines don't get me wrong, but a V8 engine has always pulled on my heart strings much more though.

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Note to Pistonheads editorial

People care about the seats in cars. Many people when buying a sports car are interested in the rear seats. In fact, most families consider the rear seats as a critical factor in their decision making.
Please post pictures of the rear seats in your articles.

Thanks