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Purosangue

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Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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any info on these ?

installed for trial in Devon and Cornwall speed camera in both directions from one pole

Sebring440

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118 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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What is the question?

normalbloke

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241 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.

VSKeith

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69 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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normalbloke said:
They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.
I noticed a pair of these on the 272 a month or so ago.
No avg speed check signs though, so not yet active?

normalbloke

8,429 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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VSKeith said:
normalbloke said:
They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.
I noticed a pair of these on the 272 a month or so ago.
No avg speed check signs though, so not yet active?
I believe they are, however, let me know when you know for sure!

SS2.

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260 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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VSKeith said:
normalbloke said:
They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.
I noticed a pair of these on the 272 a month or so ago.
No avg speed check signs though, so not yet active?
There are average speed camera signs on the sections of A32 north & south of the A272.

Purosangue

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1,773 posts

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Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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normalbloke said:
VSKeith said:
normalbloke said:
They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.
I noticed a pair of these on the 272 a month or so ago.
No avg speed check signs though, so not yet active?
I believe they are, however, let me know when you know for sure!
the article never mentioned average speed , i

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-tren...



Edited by Purosangue on Tuesday 22 August 15:59

Boosted LS1

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282 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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What are those half way up the pole?

tight fart

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295 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Boosted LS1 said:
What are those half way up the pole?
I’ve always assumed they were infrared lights, they are on some temporary cameras but not others.

akirk

5,775 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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They are not average speed cameras - they are a new form of speed camera - with ability to cover both directions with two cameras on one pole - and have infrared for low light usage

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/new-stealth-sp...

article said:
It does so by having a single camera facing each direction to capture vehicles in two lanes when travelling in opposite directions. These new ultra speed cameras also do not require painted lines on the road, like many of the older legacy cameras do.

Also equipped on the bi-directional cameras is infrared, low light technology, meaning there will no longer be a flash at speeding drivers. These new speeding detectors do not look like the typical yellow box cameras that drivers are used to seeing up and down UK roads.

Instead, the small camera is sat on top of a tall pole, which has been painted yellow for maximum visibility.

GiantEnemyCrab

7,916 posts

225 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Having your lives consistently made worse by your local councillors is pretty great isn't it............

eg none of these are ever taken away once they have 'made the blackspot safe' (sarcasm!).


DickP

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172 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Some have replaced the old box type speed cameras near me, but they appear angled quite high as if they are to point as far down the road as possible (e.g. toward a bend 1/4 mile away). Is that because they have not been set up yet or are they intended to point as far into the horizon as the road layout permits?

normalbloke

8,429 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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akirk said:
They are not average speed cameras - they are a new form of speed camera - with ability to cover both directions with two cameras on one pole - and have infrared for low light usage

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/new-stealth-sp...

article said:
It does so by having a single camera facing each direction to capture vehicles in two lanes when travelling in opposite directions. These new ultra speed cameras also do not require painted lines on the road, like many of the older legacy cameras do.

Also equipped on the bi-directional cameras is infrared, low light technology, meaning there will no longer be a flash at speeding drivers. These new speeding detectors do not look like the typical yellow box cameras that drivers are used to seeing up and down UK roads.

Instead, the small camera is sat on top of a tall pole, which has been painted yellow for maximum visibility.
They look very much like the Vector cameras, which are used for average speed detection. In fairness, we could do with a better sharper image!

martinbiz

3,624 posts

167 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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VSKeith said:
normalbloke said:
They’ve been around for a while. These are average speed cameras found on all sorts of non motorway routes. The A32 and A272 in Hampshire has just been decorated with quite a few of these.
I noticed a pair of these on the 272 a month or so ago.
No avg speed check signs though, so not yet active?
Signage isn’t a legal requirement

akirk

5,775 posts

136 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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normalbloke said:
akirk said:
They are not average speed cameras - they are a new form of speed camera - with ability to cover both directions with two cameras on one pole - and have infrared for low light usage

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/new-stealth-sp...

article said:
It does so by having a single camera facing each direction to capture vehicles in two lanes when travelling in opposite directions. These new ultra speed cameras also do not require painted lines on the road, like many of the older legacy cameras do.

Also equipped on the bi-directional cameras is infrared, low light technology, meaning there will no longer be a flash at speeding drivers. These new speeding detectors do not look like the typical yellow box cameras that drivers are used to seeing up and down UK roads.

Instead, the small camera is sat on top of a tall pole, which has been painted yellow for maximum visibility.
They look very much like the Vector cameras, which are used for average speed detection. In fairness, we could do with a better sharper image!
bit of digging shows the above links as being recent articles, based on news a few months old now...
original news blog appears to be here...
https://visionzerosouthwest.co.uk/four-new-high-te...

original blog said:
Four new high-tech speed cameras are in the process of being installed on roads in Devon & Cornwall with a history of speeding issues.

New bi-directional digital cameras will replace older Gatso cameras on Exeter Road in Exmouth and the A385 Ashburton Road in Totnes. Another two sets of bi-directional cameras are also being erected on the A390 at Drakewalls and St Ann’s Chapel near Gunnislake in Cornwall. All four cameras are set to go live in the next few days.

All of these routes have had problems with collisions and speeding vehicles, prompting numerous complaints to local councils and the police from residents.

The cameras, which have been funded by Cornwall Council and the Vision Zero South West road safety partnership respectively, have been erected on bright yellow posts for maximum visibility and have the ability to enforce speed in both directions simultaneously.

Vision Zero South West is undertaking an ambitious programme of new camera system installation, either replacing outdated technology at existing sites or introducing brand new schemes where an evidenced problem exists.
not sure what model they are but seem to be a more intelligent replacement to the old fixed Gatso cameras

Purosangue

Original Poster:

1,773 posts

35 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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akirk said:
normalbloke said:
akirk said:
They are not average speed cameras - they are a new form of speed camera - with ability to cover both directions with two cameras on one pole - and have infrared for low light usage

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/new-stealth-sp...

article said:
It does so by having a single camera facing each direction to capture vehicles in two lanes when travelling in opposite directions. These new ultra speed cameras also do not require painted lines on the road, like many of the older legacy cameras do.

Also equipped on the bi-directional cameras is infrared, low light technology, meaning there will no longer be a flash at speeding drivers. These new speeding detectors do not look like the typical yellow box cameras that drivers are used to seeing up and down UK roads.

Instead, the small camera is sat on top of a tall pole, which has been painted yellow for maximum visibility.
They look very much like the Vector cameras, which are used for average speed detection. In fairness, we could do with a better sharper image!
bit of digging shows the above links as being recent articles, based on news a few months old now...
original news blog appears to be here...
https://visionzerosouthwest.co.uk/four-new-high-te...

original blog said:
Four new high-tech speed cameras are in the process of being installed on roads in Devon & Cornwall with a history of speeding issues.

New bi-directional digital cameras will replace older Gatso cameras on Exeter Road in Exmouth and the A385 Ashburton Road in Totnes. Another two sets of bi-directional cameras are also being erected on the A390 at Drakewalls and St Ann’s Chapel near Gunnislake in Cornwall. All four cameras are set to go live in the next few days.

All of these routes have had problems with collisions and speeding vehicles, prompting numerous complaints to local councils and the police from residents.

The cameras, which have been funded by Cornwall Council and the Vision Zero South West road safety partnership respectively, have been erected on bright yellow posts for maximum visibility and have the ability to enforce speed in both directions simultaneously.

Vision Zero South West is undertaking an ambitious programme of new camera system installation, either replacing outdated technology at existing sites or introducing brand new schemes where an evidenced problem exists.
not sure what model they are but seem to be a more intelligent replacement to the old fixed Gatso cameras
yes 3000 drivers in two weeks is worrying , i think most people would look at these and think .............average speed , judging by the PH massive

we would all have been ticketed





infra red so no flash either , hence a trail of cars all going 35mph etc and no ones the wiser until a brown envelope arrives

Edited by Purosangue on Tuesday 22 August 17:45

Vasco

18,009 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Purosangue said:
akirk said:
normalbloke said:
akirk said:
They are not average speed cameras - they are a new form of speed camera - with ability to cover both directions with two cameras on one pole - and have infrared for low light usage

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/new-stealth-sp...

article said:
It does so by having a single camera facing each direction to capture vehicles in two lanes when travelling in opposite directions. These new ultra speed cameras also do not require painted lines on the road, like many of the older legacy cameras do.

Also equipped on the bi-directional cameras is infrared, low light technology, meaning there will no longer be a flash at speeding drivers. These new speeding detectors do not look like the typical yellow box cameras that drivers are used to seeing up and down UK roads.

Instead, the small camera is sat on top of a tall pole, which has been painted yellow for maximum visibility.
They look very much like the Vector cameras, which are used for average speed detection. In fairness, we could do with a better sharper image!
bit of digging shows the above links as being recent articles, based on news a few months old now...
original news blog appears to be here...
https://visionzerosouthwest.co.uk/four-new-high-te...

original blog said:
Four new high-tech speed cameras are in the process of being installed on roads in Devon & Cornwall with a history of speeding issues.

New bi-directional digital cameras will replace older Gatso cameras on Exeter Road in Exmouth and the A385 Ashburton Road in Totnes. Another two sets of bi-directional cameras are also being erected on the A390 at Drakewalls and St Ann’s Chapel near Gunnislake in Cornwall. All four cameras are set to go live in the next few days.

All of these routes have had problems with collisions and speeding vehicles, prompting numerous complaints to local councils and the police from residents.

The cameras, which have been funded by Cornwall Council and the Vision Zero South West road safety partnership respectively, have been erected on bright yellow posts for maximum visibility and have the ability to enforce speed in both directions simultaneously.

Vision Zero South West is undertaking an ambitious programme of new camera system installation, either replacing outdated technology at existing sites or introducing brand new schemes where an evidenced problem exists.
not sure what model they are but seem to be a more intelligent replacement to the old fixed Gatso cameras
yes 3000 drivers in two weeks is worrying , i think most people would look at these and think .............average speed , judging by the PH massive

we would all have been ticketed
Excellent news if true.

Most rubbish drivers seem to nowadays spend their time working out speed cameras rather than simply reading road signs and watching the road.

We really do need a massive improvement in driving standards.

Chris944

353 posts

252 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Oh Vasco ... ... what are you doing on this website? Smug self-satisfied preaching is not an attractive characteristic.

Boosted LS1

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282 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Chris944 said:
Oh Vasco ... ... what are you doing on this website? Smug self-satisfied preaching is not an attractive characteristic.
Agreed, Mumsnet is the place for him or Brake.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

282 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Purosangue said:
yes 3000 drivers in two weeks is worrying , i think most people would look at these and think .............average speed , judging by the PH massive

we would all have been ticketed





infra red so no flash either , hence a trail of cars all going 35mph etc and no ones the wiser until a brown envelope arrives

Edited by Purosangue on Tuesday 22 August 17:45
Motorola on the sign? I stopped buying their stuff eons ago. That said, I've no idea if they sell anything these days apart from sellin their soul to the highest bidder.