Cloning my own car
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Gary29

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5,234 posts

129 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Theoretically speaking, what is stopping me cloning my own car?

My partner and I drive the same make and model of car. Both named drivers on each others policy.

If we put the same registration plate on both, we would save on insurance, tax, MOT etc, as only one of each would be required to cover both cars. Aside from fuel, we would effectively half the running costs of the two vehicles.

Apart from being illegal and immoral, I doubt we would ever be foiled.

Surely someone else must have thought of this and actually put it into practice? The rising costs of insurance etc.

PS I'm not actually going to do this, but it's been a slow morning and was just pondering the pros and cons.

BenS94

3,245 posts

54 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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I think you may have answered your own, there...

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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If I saw a neighbour doing this id 100% be dobbing them in.

No ideas for a name

3,260 posts

116 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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vikingaero

13,365 posts

199 months

Mr E

23,076 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Gary29

Original Poster:

5,234 posts

129 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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No ideas for a name said:
At least use the same colour car!

vikingaero

13,365 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Double Snap!

What's to stop you burning one car, as the other car is still there, so no arson could have taken place officer. biggrin

Antj

1,149 posts

230 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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This sounds very similar to a man who had a canoe and decided to fake his own death........................ that turned out well too

untakenname

5,362 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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I know someone who did this for years as they had a winter and summer cars of the same model even though the paint code wasn't the same, nothing came of it till they bought a single car as a replacement.
If used at the same time then it may trigger some ANPR camera's if there's any logic being used (same plate triggering camera's miles apart in the same time frame).



Couple of years back this guy was forced to retire after cloning his Passat
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/c...



alscar

9,937 posts

243 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Ignoring the pure illegal aspect ,what then happens should both of you have an incident in your separate cars on or about the same day ?

sideways man

1,672 posts

167 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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I used to know a guy who, back in the day, did tarmac rallying with a Rover SD1 and had a road car with the same reg.

lost in espace

6,608 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Guilty! https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/s...

Lost his £150k job. He was 73 though, so probably retiring soon. He had been doing it for 10 years. I don't see why anyone more under the radar wouldn't get away with it.

Smint

3,639 posts

65 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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The obvious being curtain twitcher neighbours grassing, and they would.

The old bill only have to check chassis numbers and the game's up, unless you've sorted all chassis numbers too, then you need to adjust the mileage of the fake vehicle so it more or less mirrors the straight car.

Its been a long time since i've seen plod under the bonnet checking chassis numbers at least at the side of the road, if the cars (and both of you) looked the part of respectable and fiends and neighbours kept schtum you would probably get away with it for years, but once caught there must be a long list of serious charges to face, pour encourager les autres.
The bigger life changing result for the miscreant would be the insurer cleaning one out via suing if they had to award payouts of £millions if one should cause a fatal accident in the discoverable clone.

I haven't done it myself but have known people many years ago who swapped plates over on otherwise similar cars, this back in the days when rust typically killed cars off, the rusted scrapped denumbered car getting weighed in so only the one car existing as it were.

Gary29

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5,234 posts

129 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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alscar said:
Ignoring the pure illegal aspect ,what then happens should both of you have an incident in your separate cars on or about the same day ?
You'd be VERY unlucky for that to happen wouldn't you.

I guess if your morals were on a level to do this, you'd probably just go the whole hog and drive round uninsured anyway.

But it wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere was doing it.

spoodler

2,307 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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When I first started driving back in the 1980s, this sort of thing was common practice among the regulars of most of the country pubs I frequented. Particularly on old Landrovers and motorcycles (many of which weren't even the same makes!). Licences were also routinely swapped between those who had one and those who didn't. Being a young, naive lad, brought up to be law abiding, I was appalled at the time. Police were aware, but turned a "blind eye"... back then, they would even escort one of the worst drink drivers, at closing time, to make sure he got home safe.
Quite a few of the cars on the council estates I grew up on, wore the same plates and a "Newky Brown" tax disc...
Police did not have access to computers with which to check V.I.N.s etc., so things have moved on in that respect...

Miserablegit

4,443 posts

139 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Apart from all the points raised above,
You’ll only have MoT history for one of the cars - the other will not have an mot.

alscar

9,937 posts

243 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Gary29 said:
You'd be VERY unlucky for that to happen wouldn't you.

I guess if your morals were on a level to do this, you'd probably just go the whole hog and drive round uninsured anyway.

But it wouldn't surprise me if someone somewhere was doing it.
Indeed you would and because it’s illegal you’re already at the both cars uninsured stage anyway.
Maybe the sort of person to do this isn’t the best driver ( sorry both drivers ) in the world so perhaps the odds might be higher.

njw1

2,789 posts

141 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Years ago I had a black A reg Sierra XR4i, I then bought another black A reg XR4i and may or may not have used them both with the same plates on for a while...

Missy Charm

1,524 posts

58 months

Thursday 24th August 2023
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Why not? It's a justified and ancient practice...