The Barnett Formula
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The Mad Monk

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10,967 posts

139 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Could anyone explain the Barnett Formula to me, please?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula#:~:t...

I have read the wikipedia link, but I don't really understand it. Could you explain it for me, in short, easy to understand, words?

Which nation, if any, does it benefit? Which nation is adversely affected?

robemcdonald

9,692 posts

218 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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When government money is spent on something that only is of benefit to England the rest of the UK get a payout.

The amount they get is calculated using the formula.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

130 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Ehm, Wales gets money under the Barnett formula too.

KingNothing

3,300 posts

175 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Say 1000 people lived in England, 100 in Scotland and 50 in Wales.
If the budget in England went up by £1000 then the Scottish would also get an extra £100 and the Welsh £50 to keep it in line.

The Scottish and Welsh local governments then decide how to allocate their money locally.



JagLover

45,725 posts

257 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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mcflurry said:
Say 1000 people lived in England, 100 in Scotland and 50 in Wales.
If the budget in England went up by £1000 then the Scottish would also get an extra £100 and the Welsh £50 to keep it in line.

The Scottish and Welsh local governments then decide how to allocate their money locally.
In those circumstances the amount in Scotland would go up by £120.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

179 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Scotland get a little more per head essentially because it costs more to provide like for like benefits in Scotland that is to say providing healthcare in orkney costs a bit more than in Wolverhampton

deadslow

8,731 posts

245 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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KingNothing said:
It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.
that's easy. Without it, the Scots will head off to pursue their egalitarian Scandi republic in Europe.

glazbagun

15,085 posts

219 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Gecko1978 said:
Scotland get a little more per head essentially because it costs more to provide like for like benefits in Scotland that is to say providing healthcare in orkney costs a bit more than in Wolverhampton
yes Is also what Devolution is supposed to improve, when the parliament is actually focussed on its job and not grandstanding.

Roderick Spode

3,723 posts

71 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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deadslow said:
KingNothing said:
It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.
that's easy. Without it, the Scots would be completely broke.
FTFY

Rivenink

4,275 posts

128 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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deadslow said:
KingNothing said:
It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.
that's easy. Without it, the Scots will head off to pursue their egalitarian Scandi republic in Europe.
And take most of the North Sea Gas/Oil fields with them.

dingg

4,436 posts

241 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Rivenink said:
And take most of the North Sea Gas/Oil fields with them.
They can have them back when they are drained empty....

Then we can build a wall, again :-)

General Price

6,032 posts

205 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Rivenink said:
deadslow said:
KingNothing said:
It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.
that's easy. Without it, the Scots will head off to pursue their egalitarian Scandi republic in Europe.
And take most of the North Sea Gas/Oil fields with them.
The lunatics in charge of Scotland don't want the oil and gas and I'm pretty sure the EU has got enough lead weight countries.



SmoothCriminal

5,759 posts

221 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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A way to screw the English and then rub their faces in it.


ZedLeg

12,278 posts

130 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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It's a wonder the English worked so hard to keep us around based on these comments laugh

General Price

6,032 posts

205 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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ZedLeg said:
It's a wonder the English worked so hard to keep us around based on these comments laugh
Don't think the English had any say in it.The vote was only in Scotland and they voted to stay.

I thought everyone knew that.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

130 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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General Price said:
ZedLeg said:
It's a wonder the English worked so hard to keep us around based on these comments laugh
Don't think the English had any say in it.The vote was only in Scotland and they voted to stay.

I thought everyone knew that.
Oh aye, I remember no English politician or celebrity said anything about it at all.

glazbagun

15,085 posts

219 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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Roderick Spode said:
deadslow said:
KingNothing said:
It's a bribe. Why I have no idea.
that's easy. Without it, the Scots would be completely broke.
FTFY
Third highest tax revenue per head behind London & the South East. Scotland brings in plenty of tax, despite the total incompetence of the Scottish Executive.

wiggy001

6,988 posts

293 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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ZedLeg said:
General Price said:
ZedLeg said:
It's a wonder the English worked so hard to keep us around based on these comments laugh
Don't think the English had any say in it.The vote was only in Scotland and they voted to stay.

I thought everyone knew that.
Oh aye, I remember no English politician or celebrity said anything about it at all.
If the English had had a vote in the referendum Scotland would be independent by now.

98elise

31,208 posts

183 months

Friday 25th August 2023
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wiggy001 said:
ZedLeg said:
General Price said:
ZedLeg said:
It's a wonder the English worked so hard to keep us around based on these comments laugh
Don't think the English had any say in it.The vote was only in Scotland and they voted to stay.

I thought everyone knew that.
Oh aye, I remember no English politician or celebrity said anything about it at all.
If the English had had a vote in the referendum Scotland would be independent by now.
Agreed.