Foreign plated vehicles on uk roads
Foreign plated vehicles on uk roads
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Who me ?

Original Poster:

7,455 posts

234 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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What is law with regards to foreign plates on UK roads.
e.g. do they have ( as I understand it) a period of time after which they have to register vehicle with DVLA and become liable for UK VED ETC. Then, if vehicle returns to home country, for a period of time , what is time and how soon does clock start ticking?
Thats car, but what about driver and other necessities? .

andrebar

516 posts

144 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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Foreign plated vehicles can usually stay up to a maximum of 6 months in any 12 month period, though this doesn’t seem widely enforced.

For now at least EU licence holders can drive in the UK for as long as their licence remains valid in country of issue or 70th birthday. Not sure about other countries.

dibblecorse

7,303 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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[quote=Who me ?]What is law with regards to foreign plates on UK roads.
e.g. do they have ( as I understand it) a period of time after which they have to register vehicle with DVLA and become liable for UK VED ETC. Then, if vehicle returns to home country, for a period of time , what is time and how soon does clock start ticking?
Thats car, but what about driver and other necessities? .
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Who has upset you ?

normalbloke

8,440 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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dibblecorse said:
[quote=Who me ?]What is law with regards to foreign plates on UK roads.
e.g. do they have ( as I understand it) a period of time after which they have to register vehicle with DVLA and become liable for UK VED ETC. Then, if vehicle returns to home country, for a period of time , what is time and how soon does clock start ticking?
Thats car, but what about driver and other necessities? .
Who has upset you ?
I was about to ask which neighbour has bummed his dog and upset him.

aka_kerrly

12,497 posts

232 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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andrebar said:
Foreign plated vehicles can usually stay up to a maximum of 6 months in any 12 month period, though this doesn’t seem widely enforced.
It's not enforced because the UK appears to keep no records whatsoever of foreign cars arriving in the UK to determine how long they've been here .

It's not just paying no tax , I'd wager most have no insurance either as I found out the hard way when a Polish driver in a Polish registered car crashed into me. It took well over 6 months to sort and I had photographic evidence from the day he hit me to the day in court to prove no insurance no registration and the police/DVLA could not have been any less interested.
It's a disgrace!!!!!

Countdown

47,009 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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My father in law is allowed to drive in the UK on his foreign licence.

He's never actually taken a driving test, he simply paid somebody and they gave him a license.

Elroy Blue

8,812 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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If they are VISITING then they are allowed the 6 months.
The instant the owner becomes resident (which might be day 1) then they have to be taxed and registered with UK plates.
We seized hundreds of foreign registered cars under Operation Jessica.
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Countdown

47,009 posts

218 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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aka_kerrly said:
It's not just paying no tax , I'd wager most have no insurance either as I found out the hard way when a Polish driver in a Polish registered car crashed into me. It took well over 6 months to sort and I had photographic evidence from the day he hit me to the day in court to prove no insurance no registration and the police/DVLA could not have been any less interested.
It's a disgrace!!!!!
No speeding tickets, no bus lane tickets, no congestion charge, no parking tickets..........

sonnenschein3000

720 posts

112 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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Countdown said:
No speeding tickets, no bus lane tickets, no congestion charge, no parking tickets..........
Yet when we go abroad, the speeding tickets seem to follow us home rolleyes

gianlu

215 posts

201 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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I live in a small village in the Italian "riviera". There are about 20 UK registered cars. I've checked half of them, as they are always here, askmid showed not one with a valid MOT. Same rules should apply, but equally ignored.

Ian Geary

5,354 posts

214 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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gianlu said:
I live in a small village in the Italian "riviera". There are about 20 UK registered cars. I've checked half of them, as they are always here, askmid showed not one with a valid MOT. Same rules should apply, but equally ignored.
I can well imagine they're are British drivers flouting (aka breaking) the law, as well as from other countries.

But as the saying goes: two wrongs don't make a right.

Given the camera based approach to the majority of traffic enforcement, the lack of attention to foreign plates seems a big loophole.

I recall reading that the border force rejected the business case to gather vehicle registrations of cars leaving/entering at ports, as it was not cost effective.

Griffith4ever

6,282 posts

57 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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gianlu said:
I live in a small village in the Italian "riviera". There are about 20 UK registered cars. I've checked half of them, as they are always here, askmid showed not one with a valid MOT. Same rules should apply, but equally ignored.
I lived in Italy for two years, and had my car over there all that time. UK plates, UK insurance (valid 365 days a year in EU), not MOT, no Tax. Stopped once for no seatbelt, "documenti?", "sorry, they are in England", "perque?", "because I'm english". I smiled. He waved me off.

I did try to register as an Italian resident (pre brexit) so I could get my car switched over but they refused as I was semi retired, even though being in the EU they should have done so. No sts given, so neither did I :-)

iDrive

443 posts

135 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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Elroy Blue said:
If they are VISITING then they are allowed the 6 months.
The instant the owner becomes resident (which might be day 1) then they have to be taxed and registered with UK plates.
We seized hundreds of foreign registered cars under Operation Jessica.
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen
This.

Local Police taking appropriate action - not difficult - a foreign plate certainly doesn't except them from enforcement of speeding and other offences.

Officers used to include the OpJessica hashtag on Social Media posts to show the community that they were enforcing, still happens but with less fanfare.

DaveA8

697 posts

103 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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I went back Queensbury/ Burnt Oak, I hadn’t been there for over 20yrs and going up a one way street, in the correct direction and met head on a Romanian reg Vito coming towards me at god knows what speed, luckily I got into a space and she just whizzed past.
What’s the likelihood of her having insurance and even if she did, the moment something happens, the rest of her lot will be out of the houses.

As for residency etc, i remember there was some thing where they went to Calais for the day and claimed that they were still insured.

Edited by DaveA8 on Saturday 26th August 20:23

iDrive

443 posts

135 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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DaveA8 said:
I went back Queensbury/ Burnt Oak, I hadn’t been there for over 20yrs and going up a one way street, in the correct direction and met head on a Romanian reg Vito coming towards me at god knows what speed, luckily I got into a space and she just whizzed past.
What’s the likelihood of her having insurance and even if she did, the moment something happens, the rest of her lot will be out of the houses.
Casual racism

rallye101

2,511 posts

219 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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Have a great guy working for me, a unkranian nuclear physicist....driving a van while the war does its thing!! Now he's been here over a year he has to apply for a UK licence, he now cannot work anymore as the dvla will only give him an auto only licence....Welsh idiots!

Alex Z

1,963 posts

98 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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rallye101 said:
Have a great guy working for me, a unkranian nuclear physicist....driving a van while the war does its thing!! Now he's been here over a year he has to apply for a UK licence, he now cannot work anymore as the dvla will only give him an auto only licence....Welsh idiots!
Are vans with an automatic gearbox not a thing?
There’s a cost to change vehicle, obviously, but it’s a potential easy solution

Cat

3,131 posts

291 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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rallye101 said:
Have a great guy working for me, a unkranian nuclear physicist....driving a van while the war does its thing!! Now he's been here over a year he has to apply for a UK licence, he now cannot work anymore as the dvla will only give him an auto only licence....Welsh idiots!
The rules were changed for Ukrainians recently. He should be able to drive on his Ukrainian licence for 3 years before needing to exchange for a UK one.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/driving-in-great-brita...

Cat

Olivera

8,407 posts

261 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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I used to semi-regularly see a Mk3 Golf being driven up here (Scotland) on a black Guernsey plate. It eventually appeared on Facebook marketplace many years later proclaiming 'no tax needed as it's a Guernsey car'.

DaveA8

697 posts

103 months

Saturday 26th August 2023
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iDrive said:
DaveA8 said:
I went back Queensbury/ Burnt Oak, I hadn’t been there for over 20yrs and going up a one way street, in the correct direction and met head on a Romanian reg Vito coming towards me at god knows what speed, luckily I got into a space and she just whizzed past.
What’s the likelihood of her having insurance and even if she did, the moment something happens, the rest of her lot will be out of the houses.
Casual racism
No objective comment, the vehicle was Romanian registered, she was going down a one way street the wrong way at excess speed and made no attempt to slow down.
As for the last bit, one of my best friends mother was tormented in her maisonette in Burnt Oak by Romanians who actually broke an 86yr old women would worked as a nurse for her whole life, the women were the worst.
So you can shove your wise words up woke hole.
I saw this women, she just cried like a child and my friend did everything but none of the authorities really cared less. In the end they sold the place cheap to get her out.