Factory Collection.
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I did it back in June to collect my Turbo S. As you say, not exactly cheap but I really enjoyed it. They treat you very well and it was great to have somewhere to drive immediately after picking up the car. We stayed out for 9 days and took a trip into Austria, covering a total of about 1500 miles so the car was well run in by the time we got home. You can extend the plates/insurance for longer periods if you want to.
It’s not something I would do more than once but it’s good to have had the experience. Somehow it makes the car feel a bit more special too
-martin
It’s not something I would do more than once but it’s good to have had the experience. Somehow it makes the car feel a bit more special too
-martin
As an alternative, why don't you go to a German OPC, it could be the one in Zuffenhausen next to the Porsche factory and order a C16 i.e. UK spec model. You save on the price, factory collection is free of charge and you have the drive home. By the way - if you choose factory collection, can someone explain to me the difference between purchasing a Porsche here in the UK that you then go to get in Stuttgart and importing one and how you explain the price difference?
What saving?
If you take the current Euro prices, adjust for UK VAT (ie deduct 16% german VAT and add back 17.5% UK vat), then add the surcharge for RHD (which I think is £4k-ish) and then add transport costs to the UK, the car costs the same from Germany as the UK, within a few hundred quid - which is why no-one does it anymore.
I guess the real saving is if you can negotiate a discount a german dealer.
Guy
PS I have not been able to compare specs, just looked at the base prices in Germany and GB on the Porsche web-site.
If you take the current Euro prices, adjust for UK VAT (ie deduct 16% german VAT and add back 17.5% UK vat), then add the surcharge for RHD (which I think is £4k-ish) and then add transport costs to the UK, the car costs the same from Germany as the UK, within a few hundred quid - which is why no-one does it anymore.
I guess the real saving is if you can negotiate a discount a german dealer.
Guy
PS I have not been able to compare specs, just looked at the base prices in Germany and GB on the Porsche web-site.
I found the german dealers were keen to offer discount on the cars of 10-12.5%, but the big savings were on factry fitted extras where discounts of 20% on wheels, sports seats, suspension and sound pack etc.. were available at the time.
I gave AFN the chance to match the price before ordering, but curiously they didn't seem too fussed!?
I gave AFN the chance to match the price before ordering, but curiously they didn't seem too fussed!?
clorenzen said:
As an alternative, why don't you go to a German OPC, it could be the one in Zuffenhausen next to the Porsche factory and order a C16 i.e. UK spec model. You save on the price, factory collection is free of charge and you have the drive home.
Genius. If I was ordering a new car, I would do this!
Factory collection includes:
Flights out for two.
Taxi to Hotel.
Hotel for the night.
Factory Tour
Temporary german export insurance plates for 5 days.
Once you look at this in detail the costs is still high, but no longer outrageous. If you collected it yourself, you would have to bear all these costs (temporary plate is circa £200 alone I think) and ask the dealer to organise a factory tour in advance on the day you were there to collect it (since they are not open to the public).......
Flights out for two.
Taxi to Hotel.
Hotel for the night.
Factory Tour
Temporary german export insurance plates for 5 days.
Once you look at this in detail the costs is still high, but no longer outrageous. If you collected it yourself, you would have to bear all these costs (temporary plate is circa £200 alone I think) and ask the dealer to organise a factory tour in advance on the day you were there to collect it (since they are not open to the public).......
GuyR said:
Factory collection includes:
Flights out for two.
Taxi to Hotel.
Hotel for the night.
Factory Tour
Temporary german export insurance plates for 5 days.
Also:
Taxi from hotel to factory
Meal for two in the posh Porsche restaurant
Club class Eurotunnel return ticket
My plates were also for 9 days, which I think was the default.
-martin
And do German cars come with a 1 year warranty and UK with 3 or am I thinking of another marque?
For what it's worth I don't think you're allowed on the Ring with temporary plates.
And if you do buy a car in Germany check the temporary insurance carefully. I was looking at buying a 993 and seem to recall that the temporary insurance is liability only so you're b*ggered if something happens to the car. I would have thought Porsche's insurance is fully comp.
For what it's worth I don't think you're allowed on the Ring with temporary plates.
And if you do buy a car in Germany check the temporary insurance carefully. I was looking at buying a 993 and seem to recall that the temporary insurance is liability only so you're b*ggered if something happens to the car. I would have thought Porsche's insurance is fully comp.
I realise this is a bit off the original thread of factory collection but for me buying in Germany was a simple choice. Your circumstances will be different from mine but the reasons I got my 996TT in DE were :
(1) I was consulting there on and off at the time.
(2) The UK dealers in London are complacent, arrogant and expensive in comparison and I don’t like giving them my business if I can avoid it.
(3) German dealers were assistive and interested in a customer for life despite the geography issue.
(4) Exchange rate at the time was more favourable than it is now.
(5) German dealers were very willing to do a deal (I got 5K Euros off on the cheapest 996TT in the country at the time with a good spec) I also enjoyed their attitude to negotiation which was conducted it in a friendly not standoffish manner.
(6) It heightened the buying experience and I had an amazing drive back with a couple of friends.
(7) Mine was second hand and there was more choice at main dealers there, hence competition, hence lower price.
(8) It’s a generalisation but German’s do love their Porsches. They are fastidious over condition and maintenance. They tend not to buy for investment, then drive the nuts off it and sell on quickly. They take pride in them and I prefer that approach and it reduces the risk of buying a dud.
(9) Road surfaces and in Germany are excellent and mile per mile the wear and tear may be lower. However they do grit and salt their roads in winter so re-sprayed front ends are common.
Naturally this is just my approach, you’ll have a different set. For me it is not all about the £ E $ costs, though if it were buying in Germany still wins. It is also about the service, selection and condition of the cars out there. Rewarding competence in the dealer network is also factored in.
>> Edited by cyrus1971 on Wednesday 7th September 10:06
(1) I was consulting there on and off at the time.
(2) The UK dealers in London are complacent, arrogant and expensive in comparison and I don’t like giving them my business if I can avoid it.
(3) German dealers were assistive and interested in a customer for life despite the geography issue.
(4) Exchange rate at the time was more favourable than it is now.
(5) German dealers were very willing to do a deal (I got 5K Euros off on the cheapest 996TT in the country at the time with a good spec) I also enjoyed their attitude to negotiation which was conducted it in a friendly not standoffish manner.
(6) It heightened the buying experience and I had an amazing drive back with a couple of friends.
(7) Mine was second hand and there was more choice at main dealers there, hence competition, hence lower price.
(8) It’s a generalisation but German’s do love their Porsches. They are fastidious over condition and maintenance. They tend not to buy for investment, then drive the nuts off it and sell on quickly. They take pride in them and I prefer that approach and it reduces the risk of buying a dud.
(9) Road surfaces and in Germany are excellent and mile per mile the wear and tear may be lower. However they do grit and salt their roads in winter so re-sprayed front ends are common.
Naturally this is just my approach, you’ll have a different set. For me it is not all about the £ E $ costs, though if it were buying in Germany still wins. It is also about the service, selection and condition of the cars out there. Rewarding competence in the dealer network is also factored in.
>> Edited by cyrus1971 on Wednesday 7th September 10:06
cyrus1971 said:
I realise this is a bit off the original thread of factory collection but for me buying in Germany was a simple choice. Your circumstances will be different from mine but the reasons I got my 996TT in DE were :
(1) I was consulting there on and off at the time.
(2) The UK dealers in London are complacent, arrogant and expensive in comparison and I don’t like giving them my business if I can avoid it.
(3) German dealers were assistive and interested in a customer for life despite the geography issue.
(4) Exchange rate at the time was more favourable than it is now.
(5) German dealers were very willing to do a deal (I got 5K Euros off on the cheapest 996TT in the country at the time with a good spec) I also enjoyed their attitude to negotiation which was conducted it in a friendly not standoffish manner.
(6) It heightened the buying experience and I had an amazing drive back with a couple of friends.
(7) Mine was second hand and there was more choice at main dealers there, hence competition, hence lower price.
(8) It’s a generalisation but German’s do love their Porsches. They are fastidious over condition and maintenance. They tend not to buy for investment, then drive the nuts off it and sell on quickly. They take pride in them and I prefer that approach and it reduces the risk of buying a dud.
(9) Road surfaces and in Germany are excellent and mile per mile the wear and tear may be lower. However they do grit and salt their roads in winter so re-sprayed front ends are common.
Naturally this is just my approach, you’ll have a different set. For me it is not all about the £ E $ costs, though if it were buying in Germany still wins. It is also about the service, selection and condition of the cars out there. Rewarding competence in the dealer network is also factored in.
>> Edited by cyrus1971 on Wednesday 7th September 10:06
Agree totally except that I bought a new car in germany
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