DPF cleaning
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Blown2CV

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31,660 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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bought a leggy ish (80k miles) diesel, smoky and a big chuggy on startup. No warning lights or messages yet.

I reckon to at least rule DPF out, I should get a DPF clean done.

I can see some national providers of this type of service, and lots of local ones too. I can also see Halfords now do it, for what would look like a lot cheaper price than other providers.

Is there a stand out service that people have used or is it a case of just find whatever one is cheapest.

Also some of them go on about 'carbon cleaning' which i think implies getting rid of crud from other parts of the engine etc which may have resulted from a clogged DPF. I think I recall seeing somewhere previously that this is snake oil? Or is it.

thanks

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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What age of car are you classing as leggy if it's done 80k miles??

_Hoppers

1,693 posts

95 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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mat205125 said:
What age of car are you classing as leggy if it's done 80k miles??
N47 BMW biglaugh

brillomaster

1,874 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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i used these guys when my BMW 330d dpf got clogged and threw a error code.

https://carbon-cleaning.co.uk/

£250 for a guy to come out, clean the dpf, no more light. that was about 20ks ago. certainly cheaper than buying a new dpf.

you could also run some diesel injector cleaner through the fuel tank, that might do something.

though, if a car is already smoky at 80k, might be worth it actually still has the dpf on at all - my bmw never smoked and thats now on 150k.

Simon_GH

1,000 posts

110 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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A bit smoky and chuggy on start up may be the EGR valve rather than the DPF.

TypeR

1,198 posts

269 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Google “Italian tune up”
Make sure your engine is fully up to temperature beforehand.

GeniusOfLove

5,768 posts

42 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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TypeR said:
Google “Italian tune up”
Make sure your engine is fully up to temperature beforehand.
That's where I'd start too, maybe some injector cleaning snake oil for good measure.

They let you know when the DPF is constricted, in the most strident possible terms.

TooLateForAName

4,930 posts

214 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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_Hoppers said:
N47 BMW biglaugh
Dont worry about the DPF, it will probably outlast the timing chain...

Blown2CV

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233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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mat205125 said:
What age of car are you classing as leggy if it's done 80k miles??
it's a 2018 so higher than average miles

Blown2CV

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Wednesday 30th August 2023
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brillomaster said:
i used these guys when my BMW 330d dpf got clogged and threw a error code.

https://carbon-cleaning.co.uk/

£250 for a guy to come out, clean the dpf, no more light. that was about 20ks ago. certainly cheaper than buying a new dpf.

you could also run some diesel injector cleaner through the fuel tank, that might do something.

though, if a car is already smoky at 80k, might be worth it actually still has the dpf on at all - my bmw never smoked and thats now on 150k.
nice one thanks

Blown2CV

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Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Simon_GH said:
A bit smoky and chuggy on start up may be the EGR valve rather than the DPF.
good shout thanks

Blown2CV

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Wednesday 30th August 2023
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TypeR said:
Google “Italian tune up”
Make sure your engine is fully up to temperature beforehand.
already done

Blown2CV

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233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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TooLateForAName said:
_Hoppers said:
N47 BMW biglaugh
Dont worry about the DPF, it will probably outlast the timing chain...
it isn't a BMW it's an insignia 1.6CDTi

Belle427

11,896 posts

263 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Blown2CV said:
TypeR said:
Google “Italian tune up”
Make sure your engine is fully up to temperature beforehand.
already done
Doesnt really help clean the dpf out.

Blown2CV

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Thursday 31st August 2023
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Belle427 said:
Blown2CV said:
TypeR said:
Google “Italian tune up”
Make sure your engine is fully up to temperature beforehand.
already done
Doesnt really help clean the dpf out.
to be fair it wasn't me who said it would. Regen does happen on longer drives though, i hear.

Peanut Gallery

2,724 posts

140 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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If it is only chuggy on start-up, glow-plugs rather than DPF?

Blown2CV

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Thursday 31st August 2023
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Peanut Gallery said:
If it is only chuggy on start-up, glow-plugs rather than DPF?
i just swapped them myself. It has helped but i can still see smoke and a bit juddery until a few revs on startup.

I just figured DPF was the next logical step that has a common effect and something to rule out on diesels of this sort of age.

GeniusOfLove

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42 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Surely that wants ignoring if it settles down after a first rev?

I've had loads of diesels that are grumpy for a few seconds after a cold start.

Blown2CV

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Thursday 31st August 2023
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GeniusOfLove said:
Surely that wants ignoring if it settles down after a first rev?

I've had loads of diesels that are grumpy for a few seconds after a cold start.
possibly yea, i guess i am more at the finicky end of the owner spectrum

Peanut Gallery

2,724 posts

140 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Another thought - could you have an injector that is slowly leaking fuel into a cylinder, so when you start that cylinder is running mega rich until it burns that fuel off, all done in the first rev? - Or, conversely, it is leaking back to the tank, meaning not enough pressure in the fuel rail? - more likely to be the former. How you would test this I do not know, can you monitor fuel rail pressure from the OBD port? - if it goes down, where is the fuel going..