RE: Fast for £12k | Six of the Best
RE: Fast for £12k | Six of the Best
Sunday 3rd September 2023

Fast for £12k | Six of the Best

House prices are coming down, but secondhand car prices are not. Here's half a dozen ways to go fast for less


Ford Focus ST, 2014, 72k, £11,950

Nothing much beats a fast Ford when it comes to bang-for-buck value for money. At least until they become cult classics, that is. For the moment, and probably for a little while yet, the Ecoboost Focus ST remains one of the value options. No doubt prices will rise when the last Focus ST is made and the retrospective love-in begins (because that’s the fast Ford way) without a replacement in sight. For now, £12k buys a Blue Oval hot hatch that was nothing if not riotous fun, always up for a good time with its lusty turbo performance, rowdy soundtrack and cheeky handling balance. From a speed perspective, the 250hp 2.0-litre is easily tuneable, too, with 300hp requiring little more than intake, exhaust and ECU tweaks. Best think about some suspension and tyre upgrades at the same time, though, as the ST could be a wild ride even as standard. But a boring fast Ford just wouldn’t be right…

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Lotus Elan S2 Turbo, 1995, 70k, £11,995

Bet you didn’t expect to see a Lotus here. But the turbocharged Elan was a properly potent little car 30 years ago, forced induction liberating 160hp from the old GM four-pot, and with very little weight to haul around and a sophisticated front-drive chassis, there wasn’t much faster down a road in the early 1990s. Even now, as discovered in our recent Hero story, speed is certainly part of the Elan’s considerable repertoire. It’ll never be loved as much as an Elise, of course, and the model's comparative shortcomings are well known - but there’s still plenty to recommend the M100, not least being able to get in a good one for £12,000. Limited Edition number 664 is one of just two in the colour scheme, has covered just 70k since 1995 with four owners and benefits from a recent service - nice.

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Nissan 370Z, 86k, 2011, £10,990

With Nissan unable to bring the new Z to Europe, so it’s easy to gaze more affectionately upon its 350 and 370 predecessors. Especially as cars continue to become more complicated; those tired of modes and manipulation will find an awful lot to like about a pair of stylish sports coupes with a big atmospheric engine up front, a six-speed manual in the middle and power going exclusively to the rear. Sometimes the old ways really are the best. Here we have a 370Z Roadster, a welcome reminder that the drop-top Z, if not a huge seller back in the day, was certainly a handsome old beast. The advert is very, very light on detail, but the condition looks good for the age and mileage. There’s not going to be a time when PH isn’t interested in 300hp+, manual convertibles - maybe now’s the time to think about a Zed.

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Jaguar XKR, 2007, 108k, £11,495

Nothing beats an old Jag when it comes to maximum horsepower for minimum outlay. What’s disastrous for showroom customers becomes an irresistible opportunity for used buyers as fast, expensive, luxurious, capable V8s plummet in value from executive echelons to almost bargain basement. Maybe it won’t last much longer as the days of ICE Jaguars come to an end but, for the moment, plenty of temptingly affordable Jaguar flagships remain out there. This XKR ties with the Audi below for the largest engine here, and boasts comfortably the most power at 420hp. Furthermore, despite its age and mileage, the old cat presents really nicely. Perhaps no longer the height of modernity, but seemingly well cared for. Paint, upholstery and wheels are all in tip-top condition, and there’s said to be ‘great’ service history as well. It’s a great big hunk of all-aluminium supercharged V8 Jaguar for £11,495.

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Audi S5, 2009, 75k, £10,499

Believe it or not, Audi is where buyers currently need to look for the cheapest V8 manuals out there, with S4 cabrios from the early 2000s available for as little as £4k. Ideally, you’d have a saloon or wagon instead, but that’s a whole lot of V8 for not very much money. With a little more imaginary budget to hand, a newer, more stylish S5 is available, still with the venerable 4.2 and six-speed manual but on the later platform. Even at more like £10k for a really good one, they’re increasingly alluring; the Walter de Silva design still looks smart after 15 years, the interior is one of those great ones like Audi used to make and, even with fairly plain handling, a V8 and a manual gearbox possess plenty of charm on their own. This 2009 example has a full service history to back up its 75,000 recorded miles, and looks appropriately menacing in black on black.

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Honda Civic Type R, 2003, 125k, £11,995

Modifying a car never comes cheap, at least if done properly, and especially so given upgrades seldom add the money invested to the value of the car. It means there are potentially some really smart buys for canny folk out there, pouncing on something that would cost a whole lot more than what’s being asked to replicate. This Civic Type R looks like being one of them; hate to break it to you folks, but £12k doesn’t buy a whole lot of EP3 in 2023 with nostalgia tax factored in. Whereas this one gets a Jackson Racing supercharger, Tein coilovers, a limited-slip diff, a cage and a new, uprated clutch. Plus, er, more than £5k recently spent refurbishing the gearbox. So it’s probably not had an easy life, but then that means the next owner can carry on terrorising track days as intended. Stripped out with 300hp ought to surprise a few…

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Author
Discussion

chirurgus

Original Poster:

519 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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The 350Z and 370Z roadsters have always been pretty ugly cars, but the Jaguar and Lotus have gained appeal over the years, at least in my eyes.

mooseracer

2,797 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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The Elan has a GM engine??

GT03ROB

14,025 posts

251 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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mooseracer said:
The Elan has a GM engine??
Well Isuzu ….which was part of GM at the time…so they are stretching it a bit!

cliffords

4,416 posts

53 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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mooseracer said:
The Elan has a GM engine??
It's a Vauxhall engine. Think GM is written to make it sound better.

GT03ROB

14,025 posts

251 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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cliffords said:
It's a Vauxhall engine. Think GM is written to make it sound better.
Isuzu


mooseracer

2,797 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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GT03ROB said:
mooseracer said:
The Elan has a GM engine??
Well Isuzu ….which was part of GM at the time…so they are stretching it a bit!
I always understood it was an Isuzu motor, I didn't realise it had a link to GM other than company ownership!

The Rotrex Kid

34,936 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Seeing the price of the EP3 makes me feel a bit better about mine hehe

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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At this money, I'd rather have a standard XK over an XKR I reckon.
Not overly fast - but still quick enough to fit the bill.
Still got a torquey V8.

Less to go wrong, probably has a more comfortable ride and you can get a better one for the price.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15312917

Baddie

807 posts

247 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Are Audi V8’s relatively cheap because of the cam chain nightmares? Which engines are affected?

mersontheperson

732 posts

195 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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I can’t think of a car with a worse image than an Audi A5
Top of the 10 year + old german coupe Xmas tree, preferred by drug dealers and Eastern European people smugglers

Firebobby

999 posts

69 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Well prices have firmed up!! I had an ST, all be it an estate from new in 2013, sold it after 2 years for £14k that was 8 years ago, and they want £12k now?
Same for EP3. Paid £16k in 2003, sold it after a year and only got £12k! I had an S1 Elan in 97, great car, great handling, and a great little engine whatever you might say. It wasn't a new one and I didn't lose a penny when I sold it 3 years later.. Some good choices there.

Jamescrs

6,441 posts

95 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Seeing the price of the EP3 makes me feel a bit better about mine hehe
Was thinking the EP3 seems overpriced for the mileage then I read the Supercharger bit in the description.

Always had an itch to buy a Type R but I feel i'm getting a bit old for one at 42 and I should be in something more mature like a Golf GTi

The Rotrex Kid

34,936 posts

190 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Jamescrs said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Seeing the price of the EP3 makes me feel a bit better about mine hehe
Was thinking the EP3 seems overpriced for the mileage then I read the Supercharger bit in the description.

Always had an itch to buy a Type R but I feel i'm getting a bit old for one at 42 and I should be in something more mature like a Golf GTi
I’m 40 next year and I have absolutely zero plans to ditch my supercharged, 3 inch exhaust, 8500rpm stupid little Honda. Just do it. Supercharger is a must though.

jimmytheone

2,012 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Jamescrs said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Seeing the price of the EP3 makes me feel a bit better about mine hehe
Was thinking the EP3 seems overpriced for the mileage then I read the Supercharger bit in the description.

Always had an itch to buy a Type R but I feel i'm getting a bit old for one at 42 and I should be in something more mature like a Golf GTi
I’m 40 next year and I have absolutely zero plans to ditch my supercharged, 3 inch exhaust, 8500rpm stupid little Honda. Just do it. Supercharger is a must though.
^^ do it!
I’m 48 and still drive a blue Subaru (no stickers but a 3” zorst)

ChevronB19

9,165 posts

193 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Lotus for me, fancied one back in the day, and this one looks lovely, especially in that colour.

86mmx70.4mm

70 posts

210 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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jimmytheone said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Jamescrs said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Seeing the price of the EP3 makes me feel a bit better about mine hehe
Was thinking the EP3 seems overpriced for the mileage then I read the Supercharger bit in the description.

Always had an itch to buy a Type R but I feel i'm getting a bit old for one at 42 and I should be in something more mature like a Golf GTi
I’m 40 next year and I have absolutely zero plans to ditch my supercharged, 3 inch exhaust, 8500rpm stupid little Honda. Just do it. Supercharger is a must though.
^^ do it!
I’m 48 and still drive a blue Subaru (no stickers but a 3” zorst)
I’m 52 and just spent the last three days touring in the Caterham Roadsport. Much of it in the rain with the half-hood up. Scratch the itch and get what’s going to create the best memories for you.

Xenoous

2,458 posts

88 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Some great cars. My head says Jag or Audi, but my heart says 370Z.

Might start browsing the classifieds now coffee

chris116

1,234 posts

198 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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That XKR is lovely.

alock

4,560 posts

241 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Firebobby said:
Well prices have firmed up!! I had an ST, all be it an estate from new in 2013, sold it after 2 years for £14k that was 8 years ago, and they want £12k now?
I'm clearly very out of touch.

Who is paying £12k for a 9 year old focus?

hunt123

282 posts

91 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Out of them i'd probably go for the 370Z with it being rwd, convertible, 300bhp and manual.