Warning over bonfires
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Biker9090

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1,741 posts

59 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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We've received a letter this morning from the council stating someone has made a complaint over us having bonfires.

I know with almost 100% certainty this has come from our neighbour who we've had multiple falling outs with. They're incredibly combative and will turn anything into an argument.

I have had bonfires. Approx two of them this summer, dry garden waste, bottom of the garden in an incinerator bin with the lid on. What irks me more is that most of this waste is from their overgrown hedge that they fail to maintain.

Should I respond to this letter? Can I "ever" have another bonfire? Ironically, their other neighbour (who they are friends with) frequently has very large, open pit fires which don't bother them.

Gary C

14,613 posts

201 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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What does it say ?

southendpier

6,011 posts

251 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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What regulations are there? Are they on the letter.

If the other neighbour has open pit fires, that isn't an issue then perhaps the 'complaint' has come from an alternate party?

Or maybe the pit fire neighbour has received a letter too.

The hedge thing is annoying but your responsibility i believe. Do you not have a garden waste collection service from the council? Hopefully a bit of open discussion will resolve e.g. perhaps you had a fire when their washing was out or it was a garden party (just examples) - i know this can be tricky when the neighbour can be difficult.


croyde

25,445 posts

252 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Neighbours!

Thankfully in my current rental everyone on the block and throughout the whole estate are really nice. Most are older than me too.

When I lived in the family home we had a nightmare neighbour next door who I finally had a big run in with.

Nothing was said for a few years then we finally ended up quite friendly.

Getting old, I guess.

Zeeky

2,954 posts

234 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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I'd put the letter in the incinerator and burn it. And shouldn't you be returning the bits of the neighbour's hedge rather than burning them?

Grumps.

16,723 posts

58 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Zeeky said:
I'd put the letter in the incinerator and burn it. And shouldn't you be returning the bits of the neighbour's hedge rather than burning them?
No.

fatboy b

9,662 posts

238 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
We've received a letter this morning from the council stating someone has made a complaint over us having bonfires.

I know with almost 100% certainty this has come from our neighbour who we've had multiple falling outs with. They're incredibly combative and will turn anything into an argument.

I have had bonfires. Approx two of them this summer, dry garden waste, bottom of the garden in an incinerator bin with the lid on. What irks me more is that most of this waste is from their overgrown hedge that they fail to maintain.

Should I respond to this letter? Can I "ever" have another bonfire? Ironically, their other neighbour (who they are friends with) frequently has very large, open pit fires which don't bother them.
Bonfires are just anti-social. In lockdown round here there were a few idiots having them with no thoughts for the NHS staff who had to wash their uniforms on a daily basis. But when the sun is shining and it’s warm, just why would you? confused

I’m glad you have an understanding council.

Biker9090

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1,741 posts

59 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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It just references the possible anti social nature of them but then says you can have them for garden waste, then says they ask you not to do it. Various environmental health laws mentioned.

The timing of the letter is far too coincidental to not be them, considering a recent falling out.

The council does have a green waste service but you have to pay for it and - again - they've gone several rounds without a pickup so I'm not doing that.

I've spent quite a lot of time, effort and money digging up their old concrete fence posts they left in before having their fence built behind them.

Biker9090

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1,741 posts

59 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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fatboy b said:
Bonfires are just anti-social. In lockdown round here there were a few idiots having them with no thoughts for the NHS staff who had to wash their uniforms on a daily basis. But when the sun is shining and it’s warm, just why would you? confused

I’m glad you have an understanding council.
Point me to where I said I did this on a nice sunny day?

ferret50

2,669 posts

31 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Bonfires are allowed to dispose of garden waste

BUT,
Do try to burn the stuff as considerately as possible, so not on a damp day when the smoke hangs around and not on a sunny day when other folk are sat outside in the sun.

I have burnt mine off this 'summer' by getting up the crack of dawn, usually all done by about 6am!

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

204 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
It just references the possible anti social nature of them but then says you can have them for garden waste, then says they ask you not to do it. Various environmental health laws mentioned.
In that case carry on.

mcpoot

1,241 posts

129 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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As far as your neighbour's hedge is concerned you are entitled to cut off any branches overhanging into your garden but you must return them to your neighbour so I'd take great pleasure in dumping them over the fence into his garden for him to dispose of.

fatboy b

9,662 posts

238 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Biker9090 said:
fatboy b said:
Bonfires are just anti-social. In lockdown round here there were a few idiots having them with no thoughts for the NHS staff who had to wash their uniforms on a daily basis. But when the sun is shining and it’s warm, just why would you? confused

I’m glad you have an understanding council.
Point me to where I said I did this on a nice sunny day?

fatboy b

9,662 posts

238 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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ferret50 said:
Bonfires are allowed to dispose of garden waste

BUT,
Do try to burn the stuff as considerately as possible, so not on a damp day when the smoke hangs around and not on a sunny day when other folk are sat outside in the sun.

I have burnt mine off this 'summer' by getting up the crack of dawn, usually all done by about 6am!
Fantastic. So all those that sleep with the windows open get a rude awakening. rolleyes

mcpoot

1,241 posts

129 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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mcpoot said:
As far as your neighbour's hedge is concerned you are entitled to cut off any branches overhanging into your garden but you must return them to your neighbour so I'd take great pleasure in dumping them over the fence into his garden for him to dispose of.
Sadly I was incorrect in saying that. The correct advice according to the Royal Horticultural Society is:

What do I do with the prunings?
Once branches are cut off they should be offered back to the tree owner. If the owner doesn’t want them then you will be responsible for disposing of the prunings; you can’t simply throw them over the boundary into your neighbour’s garden!



durbster

11,751 posts

244 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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mcpoot said:
As far as your neighbour's hedge is concerned you are entitled to cut off any branches overhanging into your garden but you must return them to your neighbour so I'd take great pleasure in dumping them over the fence into his garden for him to dispose of.
My cowardly neighbour did this to me while we were on holiday once so I checked the regs and as far as I can tell, I don't think this is quite correct.

You must offer the cuttings to your neighbour but they're not obliged to take it, and it then becomes your responsibility. You can't just dump them over the fence - as my neighbour did - as it could be considered fly-tipping.

I couldn't find the actual legislation though so happy to be corrected.

Edit: too late biggrin

48k

16,162 posts

170 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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ferret50 said:
Bonfires are allowed
Unless the are not allowed.
The area where i live is designated as a smoke free zone and am not allowed a bonfire.

CoolHands

22,096 posts

217 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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If they’re allowed then ignore.

fatboy b

9,662 posts

238 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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CoolHands said:
If they’re allowed then ignore.
Perhaps this is why neighbour disputes happen scratchchin

normalbloke

8,439 posts

241 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Move. But don’t forget to declare your dispute…