Should aged 'offfensive' TV/film have an of its time warning

[Fermit]

We're loosing much classic stuff, think Tom & Jerry, Little Britain for example, because what's acceptable has changed, or some deem it offensive. Much like product placement has the PP logo, should anything 'of it's time' be broadcast there be a related logo, with the addition of a mention before it starts? It could even be subject to something similar to the watershead, to ideally not subject it to sensitive ears and eyes to the program/ film.

I'm fearing that much classic stuff, over time, could be lost because of offended crowds.

[Dingu]

Calling Little Britain classic is probably stretching things a touch. Not a bad idea overall though.

[vixen1700]

Never seen the PP logo, where is that a thing?

No, things shouldn't have warnings, with exceptions of old films like A Clockwork Orange and Soldier Blue, but that's more down to sex and violence than changing/manufactured offence. IMHO of course.

[AlexRS2782]

vixen1700 said:

Never seen the PP logo, where is that a thing?

It's been around for over a decade in the UK now. Basically if there's product placement in a commercial channel show a P logo briefly shows in one corner of the screen. Couple of Google found links (loads of other similar available)

https://www.marketingweek.com/ofcom-product-placem...
https://www.thinkbox.tv/how-to-use-tv/sponsorship-...

Taking ITV as an example, but also applies to other commercial channels, most likely to be seen on soaps like Coronation Street & Emmerdale, daytime shows like This Morning, etc.

[vixen1700]

Wow! Never seen that. Over a decade!!!

Then again I don't watch any of those programmes listed.

[V8covin]

AlexRS2782 said:

It's been around for over a decade in the UK now. Basically if there's product placement in a commercial channel show a P logo briefly shows in one corner of the screen. Couple of Google found links (loads of other similar available)

https://www.marketingweek.com/ofcom-product-placem...
https://www.thinkbox.tv/how-to-use-tv/sponsorship-...

Taking ITV as an example, but also applies to other commercial channels, most likely to be seen on soaps like Coronation Street & Emmerdale, daytime shows like This Morning, etc.

Pretty much every show that has mobile phones in it uses iPhones,you can't get more product placement than that yet I've never noticed a warning.

[spitfire-ian]

Fermit said:

We're loosing much classic stuff, think Tom & Jerry, Little Britain for example, because what's acceptable has changed, or some deem it offensive. Much like product placement has the PP logo, should anything 'of it's time' be broadcast there be a related logo, with the addition of a mention before it starts? It could even be subject to something similar to the watershead, to ideally not subject it to sensitive ears and eyes to the program/ film.

I'm fearing that much classic stuff, over time, could be lost because of offended crowds.

I’ve been watching Allo Allo on ITVX and it has a warning at the beginning saying that the language is of it’s time which some viewers may find offensive.

[cuprabob]

TalkingPictures TV does have warnings prior to the start of some of the classic movies they show, both verbal and text. Also some of the classic shows on the Drama channel have a verbal warning by the continuity announcer before the start.

[Fermit]

spitfire-ian said:

I’ve been watching Allo Allo on ITVX and it has a warning at the beginning saying that the language is of it’s time which some viewers may find offensive.

What language in AA is of it's time? I can only think of 'the fallen madonna with the big boobies'

Even my ever ever sensible prudish Christian father enjoy/s/ed AA

Edited by Fermit on Wednesday 6th September 20:15

[Squadrone Rosso]

Watched Saturday Night Fever on Paramount + recently. That came with trigger warnings about language used in the 70s. Wasn’t cut though. Still a great film too.

[hidetheelephants]

spitfire-ian said:

I’ve been watching Allo Allo on ITVX and it has a warning at the beginning saying that the language is of it’s time which some viewers may find offensive.

Is the "Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies" by Van Klomp offensive?

[Fermit]

Squadrone Rosso said:

Watched Saturday Night Fever on Paramount + recently. That came with trigger warnings about language used in the 70s. Wasn’t cut though. Still a great film too.

I was more thinking about a white person blackfacing, taking the piss out of gays, racial stereotypes et all. Or are you referring to something like a black person being referred to as a n*gger?

[deggles]

I think the point is what (some) people find 'offensive' has evolved. You can drop a c-bomb or have full frontal nudity on mainstream TV these days and no-one bats an eyelid, but a bit of casual stereotyping or comment "you stupiiiid woman!" to your wife and people are gonna lose their st. I'd rather not have any censorship or even content 'warnings', but if the latter avoids the former then fine by me.

[bitchstewie]

Are we losing it or is there just a warning/notice?

I watched Return of the Jedi on Disney Plus the other night and I'm sure something flashed up about "this program contains depictions of tobacco" or something like that.

That did seem a bit over the top.

[Fermit]

bhstewie said:

Are we losing it or is there just a warning/notice?

The examples I gave of Little Britain and Tom & Jerry are real, both have been pulled from being aired. It really saddens me, T&J is so nicely done, pulled, because the mother was 'stereotypical' black housewife. I watched it loads as a kid, the colour of the mothers skin never entered my mind. The massage my young brain got was It was the female of the household being pissed off with Tom being a tt.

[spitfire-ian]

Fermit said:

What language in AA is of it's time? I can only think of 'the fallen madonna with the big boobies'

Even my ever ever sensible prudish Christian father enjoys/ed AA

I would imagine it’s “you stupid woman”, etc. Also the slang terms for people from the different countries.

It’s a bit like when they put Friends on Netflix. A lot of the younger audience were pretty outraged at the jokes that Monica used to be fat and Ross’s wife was a lesbian as it body shamed women and made fun of the gay community. Joey, who people who watched it first time around found funny, the feedback from new audiences was he was creepy and a bit ‘rapey’.

[dudleybloke]

If people don't like stuff they should turn it off and stop trying to ruin other people's enjoyment.

[Fermit]

spitfire-ian said:

I would imagine it’s “you stupid woman”, etc. Also the slang terms for people from the different countries.

It’s a bit like when they put Friends on Netflix. A lot of the younger audience were pretty outraged at the jokes that Monica used to be fat and Ross’s wife was a lesbian as it body shamed women and made fun of the gay community. Joey, who people who watched it first time around found funny, the feedback from new audiences was he was creepy and a bit ‘rapey’.

Yeah, that makes sense. However, who cares if Monica used to be fat, is being fat a good thing? In IMO the reality is that many get less offended by real life than TV. I remember visiting a (male) friend in London in recent years, with his husband present on a night out. Said husband commented on how quickly I smoked. I responded with 'you're just pissed off because I've shown you how to properly suck a fag'. They both laughed their arses off, yet modern TV would probably likely edit out such a statement.

Edited by Fermit on Wednesday 6th September 20:57

[Super Sonic]

Fermit said:

What language in AA is of it's time? I can only think of 'the fallen madonna with the big boobies'

Even my ever ever sensible prudish Christian father enjoy/s/ed AA

Edited by Fermit on Wednesday 6th September 20:15

There was one where Col Von Strohm asked Capt Bertorelli a question and Lt Gruber answered, so Von Strohm said "I voss tocking to ze Vop"

[Klegal]

dudleybloke said:

If people don't like stuff they should turn it off and stop trying to ruin other people's enjoyment.

^ this…