RE: New ID.X Performance hints at EV super saloon
RE: New ID.X Performance hints at EV super saloon
Monday 11th September 2023

New ID.X Performance hints at EV super saloon

Volkswagen takes ID.7 shackles off with 558hp all-wheel-drive concept


It’s fair to say that Volkswagen has been attempting to grab our attention of late when it comes to ‘performance-orientated’ electric cars. You've probably noticed. Just last week we had a preview of the first EV ever to be granted a GTI badge. Of course, now the final letter stands for ‘Intelligence’ (go figure) yet, regardless, the resulting heated-up ID2 is already an acknowledged part of VW’s future. The ID.X Performance concept you see here is also grounded in the real world - it points to the forthcoming ID.7 GTX - although clearly the firm has opted for a more ‘expressive appearance’ on the styling front. 

It likely felt this way because the show car was revealed at the ID. Treffen event in Locarno this weekend. ‘Treffen’ means ‘meeting’ and signifies the fact that it’s an enthusiast-led event - the enthusiasts in this case being chiefly made up of the ID. Drivers Club. So in much the same way VW used to push the boat out when Wörthersee was in full swing, so it must feel like now is a good time to embrace its fledgling EV following. Coincidentally, the pre-sales for the ID.7 started just a few days before. Who’d’ve thunk it, eh? 

Anyhoo, the ID. Performance does at least take a nice old-fashioned view of what excitable car buyers like. Cue the big wheels, arch extensions, slammed suspension, quite a lot more power than standard and, yes, a stuck-on rear wing. It’s fairly unlikely the concept is going to live as long in the memory as something like the Golf GTI W12-650, but with 558hp from an unspecified dual motor configuration (the standard ID7 is rear-drive, don’t forget) VW will probably feel like it's done enough to lay the ground for the GTX, a model that’s likely to get a 400hp halo on top of its flagship status. 

Naturally, you won’t get a bespoke front splitter and rear diffuser made of carbon fibre, nor the 265-section Cup 2 tyres either. But upgraded brakes and suspension are almost certainly on the GTX goody list, albeit not with the ride height lowered by 60mm as it is here, and not with the toe increased by 80mm either. VW doesn’t bother going into performance figures, although you’d imagine the latest ID.X is sufficiently spirited to make good use of the carbon bucket seats it has installed on the inside. Hopefully enough to get the members of the ID. Drivers Club revved up. Apparently, it expected 130 cars for a new attendance record this year. Someway short of the 200,000-strong crowd they used to get at Wörthersee, then - but, as we’ve seen, VW is intent on (re)starting somewhere. 


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big_rob_sydney

Original Poster:

3,671 posts

224 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Happy to see some competition in the marketplace, because it benefits consumers. We've seen EV's go from the childish "milk float" commentary, to doing 9.3 second quarter miles in standard showroom trim with full factory warranty for a Tesla Model S Plaid, which is quicker than a Chiron costing several million dollars.

Hopefully we'll continue to see improvements through brands competing, and we can all benefit from even better cars (and batteries) down the track.

SR

670 posts

235 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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"Toe increased by 80mm" must do wonders for tyre wear!

howardhughes

1,415 posts

234 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I love how they're making these look like real cars. What a joke.

Mark_Blanchard

1,042 posts

285 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Not a bad design, for a milk float.

gonnagetyoursBenny

103 posts

135 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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GTI for Intelligence
Like naming your daughter
Unwavering Elegance

VW's brass neck
Grows stronger with every appliance
Supplied with massive spec

How long 'til they name petrol cars for pity?
Not before the next ID. GTS
It stands for Superiority.

Mouse Rat

2,102 posts

122 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Another slab sided, obese blob from Germany. Lazy engineering.

oilit

2,810 posts

208 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Who is the target market for this I wonder - serious question!

Company buyer - unlikely

Pensioner - no

Young family - not an suv so cant tower above everyone - no

YF&S person - unlikely

thebraketester

15,791 posts

168 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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gonnagetyoursBenny said:
GTI for Intelligence
Like naming your daughter
Unwavering Elegance

VW's brass neck
Grows stronger with every appliance
Supplied with massive spec

How long 'til they name petrol cars for pity?
Not before the next ID. GTS
It stands for Superiority.
What?

Howard1650

345 posts

221 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Can we have it in estate formate please?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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that looks really bad for some reason .....

thebraketester

15,791 posts

168 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Wonder where they got the idea for the low level red accent from? Hmmmm


I quite like I actually.

satfinal

2,625 posts

192 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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think it would be better without the wing

Roy H

36 posts

188 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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At least it has normal wheels

sam.rog

1,598 posts

108 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I like the wheels. You can keep the rest.

Jon_S_Rally

4,462 posts

118 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I think it looks alright. Be interesting to see what the production version looks like.

Hopefully someone can make a vaguely affordable, fun-to-drive EV at some point. I don't care about 0-60 times, I want engagement.

oilit said:
Who is the target market for this I wonder - serious question!

Company buyer - unlikely

Pensioner - no

Young family - not an suv so cant tower above everyone - no

YF&S person - unlikely
No one, it's a concept car.

Fetchez la vache

5,903 posts

244 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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big_rob_sydney said:
We've seen EV's go from the childish "milk float" commentary, to...
A couple of posts later...
Mark_Blanchard said:
Not a bad design, for a milk float.
So, no Rob, we're not quite past the childish banal comments yet.
Not that this is specific car is particularly my thing.

paulrockliffe

16,587 posts

257 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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It has a bit of Holden look to it, it's not bad, but it's not what you would choose design wise if you had the choice.

You won't get an EV with a fake spoiler on it though, even the front splitter isn't going to make it through when the aerodynamics people tot up what it'll do to the range.

benjidog

121 posts

91 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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LBW2020 said:
that looks really bad for some reason .....
Agreed.


Gigamoons

18,084 posts

230 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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big_rob_sydney said:
Happy to see some competition in the marketplace, because it benefits consumers. We've seen EV's go from the childish "milk float" commentary, to doing 9.3 second quarter miles in standard showroom trim with full factory warranty for a Tesla Model S Plaid, which is quicker than a Chiron costing several million dollars.

Hopefully we'll continue to see improvements through brands competing, and we can all benefit from even better cars (and batteries) down the track.
I don’t live my life a quarter mile at a time… so I’ll take the Chiron thanks smile

Cryssys

929 posts

68 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Irrespective of the drive train, that's one ugly car to my mind and for that reason alone it's a no from me.

Rear end reminds me of a Saab, whilst the front is a bit Mondeo. As others have commented, wheels look nice though.