RE: Milltek introduces Ineos Grenadier exhaust system
RE: Milltek introduces Ineos Grenadier exhaust system
Tuesday 12th September 2023

Milltek introduces Ineos Grenadier exhaust system

Aircraft grade stainless steel pipes promise 'distinctive sound' for Ineos 4x4


Had to happen soon enough. Modifying SUVs and 4x4s is a profit-rich environment, and tinkering with BMW engines has been going on for a very long time, so it was only a matter of time before somebody got to tuning to the Ineos Grenadier. The car is apparently never far from people's minds, the BMW B58 straight-six is eminently tweakable, and - if you need further evidence - just look at the extent of the aftermarket so far as old Defenders go. This was always going to continue in a similar vein.

Milltek Sport believes it has the first modified Grenadier to market; the project is kicking off with a filter-back exhaust system for now, with a three-inch bore and a choice of tips, but there is more to come. Interestingly, given Milltek’s background, there's apparently going to be an exterior styling package. But it also states that the exhaust ‘paves the way for further modifications should owners wish to explore the tuning potential’. And you can bet Milltek won’t be stopping with just standard power. For now, prices start at £872.

The new system is made from T304L stainless steel, which ‘will last almost indefinitely’ - good to know given the Grenadier’s intended use - and mounts using original fixtures. Handy for fitting, but also means off-road ability isn’t compromised by anything required for the new exhaust hanging down.

Indeed, it says something about cars and tuning at the moment that Milltek has launched another SUV system at the same time as the Grenadier. It’s for the new Range Rover P530, again goes from the particulate filter back, and comes with a Sport Valve Controller so the driver can control exactly when full noise is unleashed. A sound ‘reminiscent of the previous Range Rover Sport SVR’ is promised, which is encouraging given the switch from the old 5.0-litre supercharged ripsnorter to a more grown-up 4.4-litre twin turbo. The Milltek Range Rover exhaust is also available now, priced from £3,811.


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Dohnut

Original Poster:

681 posts

76 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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I wonder how many they'll sell? Can't be much, surely.

tr3a

626 posts

257 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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But of course. A car that looks like it's from the last century, needs to sound like it's from the last century. rolleyes

Haltamer

2,673 posts

110 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Huh, I thought these were electric for some reason.

Angelo1985

811 posts

56 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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I’ve seen it yesterday for the first time in the flesh, parked outside a dealer.
It’s a rare case of a car looking WORST in the flesh than in the pictures. It looks like a Chinese copy (or a spoof) it the original defender. Instead, it’s an english (sort of) spoof of the original defender. Of course, this is only my opinion, but between this and the new defender I would definitely go for the latter

Edited by Angelo1985 on Tuesday 12th September 11:03

MrGeoff

780 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Haltamer said:
Huh, I thought these were electric for some reason.
You and me both and I have no idea why!

CERBIE

197 posts

257 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Haltamer said:
Huh, I thought these were electric for some reason.
They only get about 20mpg!

Bloody ULEZ

73 posts

48 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Huh, I thought these were electric for some reason.
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Electric in the pipeline but BMW 3.0 6 cyl for now I think.

LotusOmega375D

9,371 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Which aircraft use T304L stainless steel pipes like this?

Regular T304 stainless is known as swimming pool grade stainless steel in America. It’s nothing special.

Surely you need heat resistant T321 or, better still, Inconel or Titanium for a quality replacement exhaust?

Trebor1970

224 posts

50 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Angelo1985 said:
I’ve seen it yesterday for the first time in the flesh, parked outside a dealer.
It’s a rare case of a car looking WORST in the flesh than in the pictures. It looks like a Chinese copy (or a spoof) it the original defender. Instead, it’s an english (sort of) spoof of the original defender. Of course, this is only my opinion, but between this and the new defender I would definitely go for the latter

Edited by Angelo1985 on Tuesday 12th September 11:03
Agreed, they look like the offspring of a Defender and the old Steyr-Daimler-Puch G Class, but copied in China.

Horsebox Man

107 posts

46 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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LotusOmega375D said:
Which aircraft use T304L stainless steel pipes like this?

Regular T304 stainless is known as swimming pool grade stainless steel in America. It’s nothing special.

Surely you need heat resistant T321 or, better still, Inconel or Titanium for a quality replacement exhaust?
My thoughts totally, perhaps a 316 but the L in 304 is for low carbon, easier to weld but still the crap end of the stainless market.

LexiconUK

71 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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MrGeoff said:
Haltamer said:
Huh, I thought these were electric for some reason.
You and me both and I have no idea why!
Maybe you're thinking of the Munro 4x4?

Jon_S_Rally

4,462 posts

118 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Oh look, now people who get cross about the Grenadier can get cross about an exhaust for it too laugh

LotusOmega375D said:
Which aircraft use T304L stainless steel pipes like this?

Regular T304 stainless is known as swimming pool grade stainless steel in America. It’s nothing special.

Surely you need heat resistant T321 or, better still, Inconel or Titanium for a quality replacement exhaust?
Inconel or Titanium? How much do you think that's going to cost?

There are countless cars out there with T304 stainless exhaust on that work absolutely fine. While not the ultimate solution, it's a sensible compromise between cost and durability for most applications. The use of the term "aircraft" just sounds good for marketing purposes.

Clivey

5,690 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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tr3a said:
But of course. A car that looks like it's from the last century, needs to sound like it's from the last century. rolleyes
And chances are you'll still hear these long after your wheeled iPad has been recycled into another appliance. wink

Robertb

3,868 posts

268 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Not sure why folk seem to get so upset about these. I know a couple of people who've paid their own actual money for Grenadiers, and they seem very pleased.


WPA

14,716 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Cannot see them selling many

Quhet

2,941 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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How utterly pointless. Modified exhausts, bodykits etc are not what the Grenadier is [supposed to be] about. Can't imagine too many farmers, utility companies, the UN will sign up... wink

Red9zero

11,242 posts

87 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Quhet said:
How utterly pointless. Modified exhausts, bodykits etc are not what the Grenadier is [supposed to be] about. Can't imagine too many farmers, utility companies, the UN will sign up... wink
Urban are already developing a body kit etc for it. I can't imagine huge sales, but they aren't cheap, so don't need to be.

tr3a

626 posts

257 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Quhet said:
Modified exhausts, bodykits etc are not what the Grenadier is [supposed to be] about.
You're not the one to decide that, are you? Posers decide for themselves what it's about. For them.

Clivey

5,690 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Quhet said:
How utterly pointless. Modified exhausts, bodykits etc are not what the Grenadier is [supposed to be] about. Can't imagine too many farmers, utility companies, the UN will sign up... wink
I didn't realise you can't take them off road with an aftermarket exhaust. wink

FaustF

808 posts

184 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Spent a good deal of time around these in the flesh, very impressed, purposeful and striking. I'm a big fan.

Would like to know any performance benefits or losses as a result of this system including weight gain/loss.