RE: Volkswagen Lupo GTI | Spotted
RE: Volkswagen Lupo GTI | Spotted
Wednesday 13th September 2023

Volkswagen Lupo GTI | Spotted

A Lupo GTI reboot would go down a treat in the electric era. Until then...


The Munich Motor Show (or IAA 2023 to go by its formal name) has come and gone, and while it was nowhere near as big as the pre-pandemic exhibitions, there was still plenty to sink your teeth into. Mini announced its new Cooper Electric hatchback, BMW previewed its future electric line-up with the Vision Neue Klasse and Mercedes unveiled its striking new look for the next-generation CLA. The real star of the expo, however, has to go to Volkswagen’s ID GTI concept, which showed that hot hatches will still be alive and kicking when the world is full of 1,000hp family saloons.

Up close, it looks every bit the successor to the Golf GTI, from the Mk1-inspired matte black front splitter to the Mk8 Clubsport-style rear wing. Remarkably, it occupies a smaller footprint (if only marginally) than a Polo, while the compactness of an electric powertrain allows for a cabin that, VW says, is just as spacious as the current Golf. For some reason, it’s that last bit that’s piqued my interest. If electric architecture allows for cars to feel bigger on the inside, surely there’s got to be an appetite for a city car that's just as spacious as a Polo. Offer it with, say, 150hp, firmer suspension and some red accents, and voila: you’ve got yourself a new Lupo GTI.

It's wishful thinking, I know, and it’s not like the Lupo GTI was a smash hit the first time around. VW sold fewer than 1,000 of them in the UK between 2001 and 2005, with HowManyLeft stating that around 440 are currently registered. Doesn’t do much for my cause to bring the loopy Lupo back from the dead (VW itself turned the idea down when it launched the Up!), so I’ll let the car do the talking. It’s an absolutely tiny thing, coming in nearly 100mm short than the Up! and weighing a mere 975kg. Couple that with a 125hp, 1.6-litre four-cylinder engine and (on later cars) a six-speed manual gearbox, and you got a properly fun little hot hatch which, at the time, would have only cost a smidgen under £13,000. You’d struggle to buy a Dacia for that sort of money these days.

Then there was the way it looked. The purposeful-yet-clean front bumper, deeper side skirts and tiny (but welcome) rear spoiler transformed the Lupo from a cute-yet-mildly dreary city car into cheeky little hot hatch. And, of course, you can’t ignore the signature, centrally mounted dual exit exhausts that annoyingly haven’t made it onto another GTI model since, not even the Up! GTI.

Admittedly, if VW were to release a new compact EV below the ID 2all concept, it would more likely resemble the five-door Up! over the three-door Lupo. Not that there’s anything wrong with the Up!, but the Lupo’s Mk1 Golf GTI silhouette easily trumps the more sensible look of VW’s most recent city car. And if there’s anything we’ve learned about EV hatchbacks in recent years, it’s that funky designs with a retro edge go down a treat with buyers. Just look at the Fiat 500e.

So, that’s my case for a new, electric Lupo GTI. Not very convincing, perhaps. If anything, you probably just want to thrash about in one of the originals. Well, here’s your chance. This GTI is one of the later six-speed manual cars and has covered just 54,000 miles over the past 19 years. What makes this especially tempting is that it’s a Japanese import, so it hasn’t been exposed to our corrosion-inducing salty roads. Granted, it’s going for strong money at £9,995, but these have been going up for some time and, with registrations on the decline, it’s hard to see values falling any time soon. Best grab yourself what appears to be a very clean example, then. Not like we’ll be seeing a new one any time soon.


SPECIFICATION | VOLKSWAGEN LUPO GTI

Engine: 1,598cc four-cylinder
Transmission: six-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 125@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 112@3,000rpm
MPG: 38.7 (NEDC)
CO2: 178g/km
Year registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 54,000
Price new: £12,995
Yours for: £9,995

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wistec1

Original Poster:

800 posts

71 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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A pricey future classic that will eventually start to appreciate. Not a fan of the styling or looks and the colour is not to my tastes. It's a rare spot these days.

Jon_S_Rally

4,462 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Not sure how a Lupo has a MK1 Golf silhouette. They are a totally different shape - the Lupo has a near-vertical rear screen. And that £13,000 price tag in 2005 would be more like £21,000 today...

Hub

7,143 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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These were a cult car from the off and have always held their value. Nice to see an unmodified original though.... not slammed with little wheels and stretch tyres!

Defcon5

6,471 posts

221 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Loved mine. Did 70k in it

The engine cover isn’t on right on that one, the rear left clip needs pressing down onto the rubber pipe it fits on

howardhughes

1,415 posts

234 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Yet to see one which hasn't been dropped by 100mm and driven by Kevin & Perry.

sawman

5,170 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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This dealer is on my dog walking route, the lupo looks smart sitting in the showroom, still cant believe its 10k smart though. I pointed it out to my 19yr old, but it didnt excite him.

Taz73

508 posts

42 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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I was always a fan of these but never bought one, they were always quite expensive.
"would have only cost a smidgen under £13,000. You’d struggle to buy a Dacia for that sort of money these days." With inflation, according to the bank of England calculator, it's £23127.46 in today's money which is i20N territory as opposed to Up GTi.
Still, this one at £10k seems reasonable when compared with what other old hot hatches are going for, I'd be tempted if I had the cash as it's not enough to get an up Gti, although it is enough for a decent Abarth.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,923 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Ace little cars - on my list after having had a few 6n2 Polo GTIs which are the seemingly under rated close relation to the Lupo GTI but at 10k you're into "proper" hot hatch territory with cars that'd destroy a Lupo for pace and fun - various Minis (sorted R53 for half the price, R56 JCW for 10k), mk5 Golf GTI ED30 to name just a couple I have experience of. But on the flip side I can see how having a Lupo is tempting even in the face of faster/bigger/cheaper competition - for raw driving pleasure I bet they're great if my experience of the 6n2 is anything to go by (chocolate gearbox fitted to the Polo not withstanding).

Taz73

508 posts

42 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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A similar age (slightly newer) and sized 1.6 hot hatch would be the original swift sport, with low mileage like this lupo, they can be had for half this amount which is great value to my mind, and a better buy.

Trikster

934 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Had had a couple of these in the past, loved them to bits - proper grown up car in a small package and a real pocket rocket

First one was in 2001 and 1 year old when i bought it (£10k iirc), 5sp, cloth seats - only got rid as i moved to the US

Then bought another that was 4-5 years old ('53 plate i think, paid £4.5k) 6sp, leather seats, didn't really bond with it the same way - think sliding around on the seats didn't help.

Was also the first car I had with Xenon headlights - one of those things at the time I thought I'd never pay for, what's the point? Normal headlights are fine..... but wow...

One went on one of the auction site for £3-4k last week, was sorely tempted

Not sure if £10k is pricey or not given the current market, to much for me to put my hand in my wallet, 7-8 I might think twice though

Edited by Trikster on Wednesday 13th September 08:44


Edited by Trikster on Wednesday 13th September 08:45

Lester H

4,404 posts

135 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Interesting. For once, the price isn’t too silly imho. However VW always manage to add a hint of boredom into their styling, don’t they? Compare that styling, as has been said, with a 500 or Suzuki Swift.

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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As above these always held their price well, good ones typically had very long term ownership a lot being only one or two owner cars over their first ten years - most likely because anyone who had one appreciated just how good they are to drive.

Very light and with a wheel at each corner excellent handling but nice refined ride, only 125 bhp but felt a whole lot faster than it should have been, the joy of a light weight sporty car that was well built.


I had a few 6 speed model lupo Gti and one 5 speed Lupo Gti performance was the same the 5 speed change felt more sporty.

Vw missed a good opportunity to bring this back up to date with a proper sport up! Gti rather than the low powered version we got.

C5_Steve

8,962 posts

133 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Yeah I've no issues with the price really, they seem to have quite rightly gained their status as a bit of a classic and they hold their price well, you see it reflected in the Up! as well with really strong residuals.

I don't remember these being taken that seriously when they were new, it may just be me but I feel they were seen as a car for someone who couldn't afford or get insured on a Golf or Polo at that time. I know which of the three I'd have now though, proportions are pretty perfect and it looks like a lot of fun,.

Bazooka Joe

61 posts

149 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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If it is a Japanese import, then won't be ULEZ compliant!

CKY

2,268 posts

45 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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rallycross said:
As above these always held their price well, good ones typically had very long term ownership a lot being only one or two owner cars over their first ten years - most likely because anyone who had one appreciated just how good they are to drive.

Very light and with a wheel at each corner excellent handling but nice refined ride, only 125 bhp but felt a whole lot faster than it should have been, the joy of a light weight sporty car that was well built.


I had a few 6 speed model lupo Gti and one 5 speed Lupo Gti performance was the same the 5 speed change felt more sporty.

Vw missed a good opportunity to bring this back up to date with a proper sport up! Gti rather than the low powered version we got.
Agreed they are great fun, I think if I had a go in one again nowadays i'd probably struggle with the ride. It wasn't dreadful, but especially nowadays it's liable to be somewhat crashy and struggle with some of the craters/'potholes' we now have all over our under-maintained road network. Aside from the poorly-spaced brake/throttle pedals and the overly light steering I love them, would have another 6 speeder cool

DaveyBoyWonder

3,923 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Trikster said:
Then bought another that was 4-5 years old ('53 plate i think, paid £4.5k) 6sp, leather seats, didn't really bond with it the same way - think sliding around on the seats didn't help.
Ah yes, the seats must have been the same as the leathers I had in my first 6n2 GTI. Comfy but you slid off them in the corners biggrin

DaveyBoyWonder

3,923 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Bazooka Joe said:
If it is a Japanese import, then won't be ULEZ compliant!
Think the Jap imports do make it ULEZ compliant?

paulrockliffe

16,587 posts

257 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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I've wanted one of these since I got overtaken on the way into my first job out of school at Sellafield by someone in one. The Lupo was properly cool anyway, but the reworked styling of these is just about perfect and it came out in the worst era really for rampant size inflation of cars, so it was a real antidote to all that nonsense.

They're obviously due a proper comeback in electric form, they would sell bucket loads. Except they won't because of the range:costtongue outracticality thing. As things stand batteries just need to be so much cheaper as they end up being so much higher percentage of the cost of a cheap car. Then you're into, "I'm not paying £20k for a Citigo-e with 100 mile range!" It's too compromised for its price, Skoda only sold 400 then gave up.

The Up! GTi is £16k, a low mileage second-hand Citigo is £5k, a quarter of the cost and 3 times the range, how do you compete with that at the moment?

Hopefully one day we'll get something more like the Japanese Kei class for e-thingys

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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10k gets a very nice 595 Abarth

The Lupo may hold its value but I'd rather have the Fiat personally

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Came close to buying a used one of these ages ago, ended up with a Citroen C2 VTS, wish I'd bought the VW. Fizzy little city car sized hot hatches are great, shame there are hardly any modern equivalents.