Lad avoids jail despite running over a woman killing the dog

[Downward]

and running away.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/kal...

A driver who mowed down a pedestrian and killed her dog whilst racing his friend has avoided jail. Kallum Aish was speeding along Doe Bank Lane in Great Barr in a black Renault Clio chasing a Vauxhall ahead, despite not having a licence.

But the then 17-year-old lost control and ploughed into Patricia Faulkner, bashing her into the hedge and leaving her with serious injuries, whilst tragically killing her Staffordshire bull terrier Millie. Cowardly Aish then fled the scene.

[BertBert]

Impressed by the comment from the judge...

"I'm acutely aware the sentence I have to pass will not satisfy anyone and it doesn't seek to compensate Mrs Faulkner for her appalling injuries and terrible loss."

[agtlaw]

Sentence:

- 22m suspended for 18m
- 30 RAR days (with ‘Stepping Stones’)
- 3 years disqualification from driving (with extended re-test)

[ChocolateFrog]

agtlaw said:

Sentence:

- 22m suspended for 18m
- 30 RAR days (with ‘Stepping Stones’)
- 3 years disqualification from driving (with extended re-test)

Pathetic.

It seems to me that the very serious crimes are getting decent time these days but the merely serious are getting away with pathetically lenient sentences.

Everyone else is getting away scot free.

[budgie smuggler]

agtlaw said:

Sentence:

- 22m suspended for 18m
- 30 RAR days (with ‘Stepping Stones’)
- 3 years disqualification from driving (with extended re-test)

The article says he was charged with possession of cannabis... Do you happen to know if it was possession with intent to supply? Having it separated into 25 bags would surely imply that.

[trackdemon]

ChocolateFrog said:

agtlaw said:

Sentence:

- 22m suspended for 18m
- 30 RAR days (with ‘Stepping Stones’)
- 3 years disqualification from driving (with extended re-test)

Pathetic.

It seems to me that the very serious crimes are getting decent time these days but the merely serious are getting away with pathetically lenient sentences.

Everyone else is getting away scot free.

Also pathetic: this happened over 3 years ago. Why on earth has he been able to go about life for that long before being sentenced (to not much)?

[CT05 Nose Cone]

We need to keep jail space free for the real criminals though, like people who restream football matches.

[DaveA8]

He had to move home because of death threats and the Birmingham mail gives out his address, oh the irony of it.
Vile pos

[SmoothCriminal]

Soft touch Britain.

Zero deterrent for these lads who drive like s when they get away with doing this damage.

[Yex RS4]

DaveA8 said:

He had to move home because of death threats and the Birmingham mail gives out his address, oh the irony of it.
Vile pos

At least the locals are handing out what they believe the courts and authorities should have. Whilst I don't want our legal system to become as politicised as the US system there would be a lot of votes to be won if political parties put stronger penalties for such crimes in their manifesto.

[WonkeyDonkey]

"Kallum Aish was speeding along Doe Bank Lane in Great Barr in a black Renault Clio chasing a Vauxhall ahead, despite not having a licence."

Punishment: 3 year disqualification from driving.

He was never qualified to drive in the first place!

[agtlaw]

WonkeyDonkey said:

"Kallum Aish was speeding along Doe Bank Lane in Great Barr in a black Renault Clio chasing a Vauxhall ahead, despite not having a licence."

Punishment: 3 year disqualification from driving.

He was never qualified to drive in the first place!

As mentioned in an earlier post, sentence as follows:

- 22m suspended for 18m
- 30 RAR days (with ‘Stepping Stones’)
- 3 years disqualification from driving (with extended re-test)

Driving otherwise in accordance with a licence is not imprisonable.

The judge did not have a choice about disqualification. It's mandatory for causing serious injury by dangerous driving. Parliament set the minimum at 2 years with a mandatory extended re-test.

Driving whilst disqualified is an imprisonable offence. Maximum 6m.

If the offender is convicted of driving whilst disqualified in the next 18m then that would activate the custodial element of his suspended sentence.

[Heaveho]

Seem to remember an emotional thread recently where a guy driving a Land Rover in the rain aquaplaned at a speed even the police had to guess at because they couldn't accurately ( at the first attempt anyway ) come to a decision about it, but ended up with 80 as the figure, and got treated pretty harshly compared to this. Someone ploughed into him after he had come to a stop and died, rather than him drive into them.

Despite having a licence and insurance and remaining at the scene, didn't he get jail, even though the outcome was out of all proportion to the intent? Whereas this idiot had every reason to expect to be the cause of trouble.

One was a genuine accident. This isn't comparable, yet the sentences of both seem ridiculously out of proportion to the intent and outcome.

[5lab]

why aren't suspended sentances suspended for a lot longer? it seems like you'd be unlucky (even with repeat behavior) to do the same thing again within 2 years, but suspending for, say, 20 would surely be a better long-term deterrant from re-offending?

[Retroman]

When pathetic punishments like these are handed out, it just encourages people such as close friends or family members to seek our revenge and get their justice the old fashioned way.

[eldar]

FNG said:

-10 points for superfluous use of "post" there.

Snappy reply

[poo at Paul's]

Some of these judges need a proper reality check. Insanely lenient sentence, and as for disqualifying a driver who never had a qualification in the first place....
muppetry

[Retroman]

MrBogSmith said:

udges have to sentence according to sentencing guidelines.

The quote from the Judge in the article implies this, “sentence I HAVE to pass”…

Why wouldn’t a driver without a licence be disqualified?

I'm a little confused though. I thought dangerous driving had the potential to carry a prison sentence.
But it seems a combination of both dangerous driving, and leaving the scene of an accident combined aren't enough to do it here.
Who sets the sentencing guidelines?

The punishment of punishing a driver without a licence by banning them is laughable at best. It's going to do zero to deter them from driving in the future. Just look at Katie Price. Banned half a dozen times. Manged to escape half a dozen other bans. People are still filming her out driving with no license recently and she's still able to live a life of luxury with no consequences.

[QuartzDad]

Retroman said:

I'm a little confused though. I thought dangerous driving had the potential to carry a prison sentence.
But it seems a combination of both dangerous driving, and leaving the scene of an accident combined aren't enough to do it here.
Who sets the sentencing guidelines?

I believe the government set them.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magi...

Range is 6 months to 4 years depending on culpability and harm. I'd guess he was grade A culpability and level 2 harm so 2 to 4 years with a starting point of 3 years.

Give him a bit more than 3, take off a third for his guilty plea and you end up at 22 months. Suspended because he was under 18 at the time, has cancer, wrote a letter of regret etc. etc.

Not saying any of it is right but those are the guidelines the judges have to use.

[nismocat]

I wonder if she was planning on going into a field on that side?

Just wondering why she was walking on the road when there was a path on the opposite side.