RE: Abt uses ethanol injection to create 1000hp RS7
RE: Abt uses ethanol injection to create 1000hp RS7
Thursday 14th September 2023

Abt uses ethanol injection to create 1000hp RS7

Abt's Legacy Editions already had 820hp. Now it has something called Indirect Water Ethanol Injection too...


Sometimes it can feel like the universal advent of turbocharging made tuning all a bit too easy. Whack up the boost, get air in and out of the engine more efficiently and bob’s your uncle - gains. Chuck in bigger, lustier blowers and a chunkier intercooler and then you’re really on the way, and without necessarily touching internals. Of course, even that approach reaches its limit eventually, and it’ll be no surprise to discover that's where Abt is with its RS6 and RS7 tuning. Did it stop there? No. Seemingly not content with 820hp from the RS6 and RS7 Legacy Editions, its version of the twin-turbo V8 has now been upped to 1,000hp. With a little help from ethanol.

Yep, innovation is the name of the game when it comes to making very powerful engines even more powerful again. So Abt has created something it’s calling IWI, or Indirect Water Ethanol Injection; it’s fitted ahead of the two throttle valves of each cylinder and managed by a newly developed Abt control unit. The ethanol keeps the engine cool, which means more air can be squeezed in to be combusted with the fuel. And we all know what more air and fuel leads to.

Thomas Biermanier, Abt’s MD, said of the tech: "The IWI technology offers us the thermodynamic advantages to be able to display the most enduring power output in these performance regions. Through IWI injection, we ensure very strong internal cooling of the engine. This allows more charge air or oxygen to be supplied for the combustion of the fuel, resulting in permanently higher performance".

Now, of course, adding 20 per cent more power again to an engine already a third more potent than standard does require some additional hardware. For these 1,000hp LE conversions, Abt fits ‘optimised’ turbos, larger intercoolers and a carbon intake system. The internals of the 4.0-litre are beefed up, too, with low compression forged pistons, stronger conrods and piston pins, plus extra oil coolers. The ethanol is stored in a 15-litre tank in the boot, and the filler is under the usual fuel flap. Abt reckons it’ll need topping up every 3,000km or so, and has even gone as far as including an ethanol level in the myAbt app, so monitoring could hardly be easier. Naturally, Abt will be happy to supply you with more IWI fluid when you run out. 

As for actually deploying 1,000hp in an Audi Avant or four-door coupe, it’s all very Fast & Furious. And a bit fiddly, which is probably for the best - nobody wants an accidental 1,000hp. Drivers must be in either of the RS1 or RS2 individual drive modes, then hold down the RS button once more for a second to get the full monty. ‘With the IWI system activated, maximum performance is demanded from the vehicle with every spirited press of the accelerator pedal’. The autobahn won’t know what’s hit it.

This sort of prodigious power doesn’t come cheap, of course. Not least because 102RON fuel is needed for the full four figures, otherwise it’s 940hp on standard super. But also it’s €205,000. That buys the original Legacy Edition package plus the IWI on top - all the buyer needs to do is provide a current generation RS6 or RS7 to be transformed, and wait for their minds to be turned upside down. Peach paint not mandatory…


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simundo777

Original Poster:

217 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Soon to be parked outside of Harrods revving its engine. Not sure on the care home beige paint job.

fantheman80

2,645 posts

79 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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To me that colour is more 'Desert Storm sandy' than peach


blue al

1,438 posts

189 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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What’s the ABT additional tax to add this kit to something that looks like a borderline German airport taxi

Will it run methanol also..?

Hopefully the internal tank is of a sufficient size, I’d empty my R53 boot based meth tank in less than a 100 miles on a track day.

That’s 5Ltrs for a 1.6 sized engine running 275-ish hp,
I cannot see that 15ltrs will last any longer with asking the car to use the extra ponies

Edited by blue al on Thursday 14th September 13:19

epom

14,968 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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All very impressive,all very expensive, all of very little interest to me.

popeyewhite

23,087 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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blue al said:
What’s the ABT additional tax to add this kit to something that looks like a borderline German airport taxi

Will it run methanol also..?

Hopefully the internal tank is of a sufficient size, I’d empty my R53 boot based meth tank in less than a 100 miles on a track day.
That's the main argument against WMI - frequency of mix refill and size of tank when having fun. Better just run ethanol 40 or 50 on a flexfuel system maybe. I can see a Mini would be a blast with WMI.

DLR_1977

83 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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"Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."

Dohnut

681 posts

76 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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What a stty colour.

Augustus Windsock

3,798 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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For those old enough to remember, its not far off the colour of NHS hearing aids / spectacles; eeuugghh.

As for the conversion; why? And how many will they sell, realistically? Enough to recoup their development cost?

I really must be getting old, as this thing leaves me cold...

Mikehig

978 posts

91 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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History repeats.....
The Germans developed this technology for their aero engines in WW2, although it used methanol-water.

MCBrowncoat

1,764 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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What's the colour? Katze krank?

C5_Steve

8,962 posts

133 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Dohnut said:
What a stty colour.
Agreed, of all the colours they could have wrapped it in......

popeyewhite

23,087 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Isn't it Afrika Korps brown?

Nubiann

19 posts

89 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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simundo777 said:
Soon to be parked outside of Harrods revving its engine. Not sure on the care home beige paint job.
Not possible its rev limited its BMW you may be referring to

QuattroDave

1,817 posts

158 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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simundo777 said:
Soon to be parked outside of Harrods revving its engine. Not sure on the care home beige paint job.
Hearing aid beige to me!

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Why did they call it IWI and not IWEI? I find this the most interesting aspect of this car

untakenname

5,361 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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popeyewhite said:
blue al said:
What’s the ABT additional tax to add this kit to something that looks like a borderline German airport taxi

Will it run methanol also..?

Hopefully the internal tank is of a sufficient size, I’d empty my R53 boot based meth tank in less than a 100 miles on a track day.
That's the main argument against WMI - frequency of mix refill and size of tank when having fun. Better just run ethanol 40 or 50 on a flexfuel system maybe. I can see a Mini would be a blast with WMI.
Can't see how 15 litres would be enough for 3000km of hard driving either.

Shame flexfuel never took off in this country, in France E85 is a lot cheaper than standard E10 petrol.

ArmouredBiscuit

1,139 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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“…..and then to finish it off, we paint it the same colour as a Band-Aid plaster.”

toby-w8jtf

118 posts

122 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Alternatively QS Tuning can provide a stage 3+ package for these for 21k which provides 1000BHP. Their shop car is the fastest in Europe and does 100-200kph in 4 seconds!! Saves you 150k+

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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thats f.in awful colour who in gods name thought that would be a good colour ?

Straight line hero rubbish, who cares a 1000 hp in that is borderline useless ....what a waste of money

TGCOTF-dewey

7,903 posts

85 months

Thursday 14th September 2023
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Aren't you supposed to tune the production model rather than the clay buck.